Avicci’s Wake Me Up and the Symbolism in the Video Clip.



It was recently brought to my attention that there appeared a not so subtle symbol on the arms of some of the characters in Avicci’s music video “Wake Me Up”.

It was brought to my attention by my 8 year old daughter and my wife, so I said, thanks, you know I’ll have to answer that question now.

I gave a brief answer but informed them I would produce a more sufficient one in time.

Well considering Avicci is coming to Australia in January 2014 I felt it important and useful to get this posted ASAP.


Avicci–Wake Me Up

Wake Me Up was put out by DJ Tim Berling aka Avicii.

The key points in this video are:

  1. Two girls wake up in a town that appears to be drab, colourless and lifeless.
  2. A younger girl is sleeping next to an older girl. If there is a veiled reference to some corrupt subtly here I purposely leave it for now as it would be mere conjecture.
  3. The two girls both have a tattoo on both their upper left arms of an upright triangle and below an upside down triangle, of which both are black.
  4. When the two girls go out in public the people of the town act in a disparaging manner of disapproval as would an older time puritan American town would frown on a lewd person or lifestyle.
  5. The older girl leaves on a horse and finds a better place to live where others also have the same tattoo (and or mind set.)

As for the meaning of this it took some consideration so as to not get multiple meanings crossing their wires and filter out surface level meanings.

But after a short trip to work considering all the messages it became clear what it was communicating. The process of writing this was not so short.

Firstly in an interview on OCWeekly by Alejandra Loera http://blogs.ocweekly.com/heardmentality/2012/04/avicii.php Tim Bergling fronts up clarifying the meaning of the bands name Avicci stating

“In Buddhism it means the lowest level of hell… I was honestly just looking for a MySpace name and had remembered the word Avicii from a friend. It just sounded cool,”.

อเวจี It is pronounced A-way-G meaning abyss the 7th level. I will leave that alone for now as that open another huge issue.

Firstly if the latter part of this quote is at all true, once you come to understand the meanings behind the symbology and the video itself you will have to conclude that he is at least being directed by persons and or spirits to use these symbols. (if you believe in such things). I say this from my own personal experiences in life.

Secondly if the latter part of this quote is not true it is then mere damage control. In both the pop and film world numerous stars are clearly involved with the occult and seriously pursue the dark arts. It begins by denial, moves later to excusing and later joking that they lied. Fact is that you rarely make it big unless you are working with the industries agenda, and it isn’t just about making money. We all have our beliefs and they have theirs.

I personally know for a fact that bands in the 60’s for example could not gain any gigs till they signed up as card carrying members of the Communist Party. It is now religion not politics that is driving the industry, and it is incredibly dangerous. (It always was.)

It goes with the territory of the philosophy held. The philosophy does not hold to truth so why speak truth?

In light of this we examine the video clip which shows us two girls lying in the same bed. Some say sisters, others say mother and daughter. It is clearly not the latter just by noting the small age difference.

Some views on this I found came from fans who have understood the song before seeing the video clip and automatically concluded that the two girls were the same girl, older and younger. Maybe, maybe not? That is conjecture though highly likely, but let’s stick to facts.

Prior to providing an answer to what it means I instead wish to outline the background behind the facts first. As the saying goes,

“Give a man a fish and he eats for a day. Teach a man to fish and he eats for life.”

I want you to eat for life, in that you can apply the same principles here in relation to any similar scenario you encounter within the media environment.

After watching the film clip it seemed beneficial to discuss it chronologically.


The Symbology

Before moving into this I wish to establish some background on some symbols so as to perceive the imagery of the music video for Wake me Up.

Let’s examine the Mountain, Cave, pillar or phallus, and triangles.

“As the cave inside the mountain is an essential element in mountain
symbolism, it follows that the ‘mountain-temple’ would not be complete without some form of cave. In this sense, Indian rock-cut temples are a literal expression of the mountain-cave symbol: the temple actually is the cave cut into the side of the mountain. The cave stands for the spiritual Centre, the heart or the hearth (cf. the cave in Ithaca, or the Cave of the Nymphs in Porphyry).

This symbolism implies a displacement of the symbolic centre, that is, the mountain peak of the world ‘outside’ is transferred to the ‘inside’ (of the mountain, and so of the world and of Man). The primary belief in the fundamental significance of an external form (such as the menhir, omphalos or pillar) is replaced by an interest in the space at the centre of things’, identified as the ancient symbol of the ‘world egg’. [aka Easter.]
One of the specific symbols of this is the dome, symbolizing also the vault of
heaven (which is why domes in ancient Persia were always painted blue or black).

In this connexion, it is important to note that, in the geometrical symbolism of the cosmos, all circular forms relate to the sky or heaven, all squares to the earth, and all triangles (with the apex at the top) to fire and to the urge towards ascension inherent in human nature. Hence, the triangle also symbolizes the communication between earth (the material world) and heaven (the spiritual world).” Dictionary of Symbols by J. E. Cirolt

Thus it is speaking about the urge of man to evolve. The theory of Physical evolution (Darwinian, Punctuated Equilibrium, etc) naturally leads to the Theory of Spiritual Evolution (Intelligent Design, Pantheism and Panentheism) which conflict with the idea of Creation and are NOT synonymous.

The occult concept of transferring inside to outside or visa versa is called Transmogrification but I won’t go into that here.

Let’s look at some examples in todays culture.



Left: Two mountains in the foreground aka Gemini and the One mountain in the background with the apex hollowed out slightly in the shape of a triangle. aka the Purpose





Right: The Great Seal on the US Dollar Note. Notice the capstone is not yet connected.






Left: Pillars of Hercules with the Flaming centre and the winding pathway up to the top.

Right: The two pillars in Freemasonry Jachin and Boaz.  Notice the triangle in the centre on fire.



In the Masonic Order the two mountains or two pillars are called Jachin and Boaz.
They claim to derive this from scripture found in 1 Kings 7:21

“And he set up the pillars in the porch of the temple: and he set up the right pillar, and called the name thereof Jachin: and he set up the left pillar, and called the name thereof Boaz.”

But there are always two meanings to occultists, sometimes even more.
You will discover there is a third mountain. Also called the middle way, and is a synthesis of the two into one. Thus the importance of Oneness or unity.

“The mountain with one peak is symbolic of the One—of transcendent purpose; the two-peaked Mountain of Mars stands for the Gemini, the world of appearances and the dualism of all forms of life. Both these symbolic mountains find their symbolic complement in the general pattern of archetypal landscape—also, incidentally, an image of the year; this pattern is composed of the river of life (denoting the positive phase) and the river of oblivion (the negative phase) which flow through the sea of flames (expressing infirmity) and well up from a single source (birth or the Origin).” pg 180 Dictionary Of Symbols by J E Cirlot.

In a previous document I wrote regarding Eugene Peterson’s The Message. A document I hope to put up here shortly. I dealt with the issue of The One.


Left: Masonic Website called The Three Pillars. The sub heading states “Finding The Balance In Todays Freemasonry


Right: Boaz and Jachin,  two mountains made one.

The symbols are important later.

This is the process being used in society to effect “change”. It is called the Dialectic, Dia meaning two. You bring two opposing forces into dialogue and you produce a synthesis.

To further the implications of this symbology let me show some art work and architecture that pushes the point home so firmly it may become to real to accept at first.

Below: Le Soleil Mystique 1853. Notice the flame of Lucifer (aka the torch), the two pillars on the left shoulder and the two pyramids / mounds/ mountains.


Right: Twin Towers Jachin and Boaz with Lady Liberty in foreground. The two towers are on the left shoulder of Lady Liberty.



Left: Universal Pictures: This is Minerva, Venus, Isis holding the torch of Lucifer. Are the clouds at the back clouds of glory or destruction?


Realise the painting “Le Soleil Mystique” is from 1853 in the “Journal De La
Maconnerie Universelle”.

The Statue of Liberty was not dedicated till 1886 and work was not started till the early 1870’s.

The twin towers were not designed till the 1960’s and completed till 1972-73.


Above: I have pictorially shown who “The One” is according to occultists.





imageCompare Universal Pictures with the two on the right. I make no further comment









The question is what comes from the destruction of the two? The One.


Above: The New Freedom Tower. Notice how it combines both an upside down triangle and an upright triangle. The two now become one. As Above So Below. The same symbol used by Avicci. This will find clear application soon in the music video.

Understand art communicates the subtle messages of the mystery religions.




Right: Artist calls picture “Primordial Hill”and gives clear occult comprehension of the meaning of the twin towers positioning them on primordial hill. Take careful note of the imagery used in this art work.


The primordial hill or mound of

“The earth was thought of as a mount amid the firmamental water, and to image this they  would naturally raise a mound of earth. …the heap of earth had acquired a sacred character…had become a kind of altar mound piled up with offerings of food… The earliest altar raised had been the mound of earth, and this was used to typify the mount of earth.” Historian Gerald Massey

Having established some background to the outward use in society “hidden in plain sight”, let’s now examine in detail what is within Avici’s music video.


Avicci’s Music Video

Let’s now embark upon examining the music video.


image Mountains in the distance. The paths are symbolic of the straight laced town the two girls live in. The straight and narrow a possible reference to the righteous way of life as declared by Jesus in the Bible and the “boring” straight laced town and the “puritanical” colourless people in it we come across.












Notice the townspeople are depicted like they are in a cult, with drab, dull colours and with displeased to outright miserable faces. It gives the impression of the stereotype that has been ingrained in our minds of religious persons. Thus a picture speaks a thousand words.




The tattoos on upper left arm of the girls and later the people in the modern city is an upright triangle with and upside down triangle underneath.



This symbol is the symbol used by Avicci as Avicci’s identifying marker. Other bands have come to use different markings to depict their own “branding”, and so to does Avicci in this regard.


imageThis image though is more than just a “logo” and portrays the philosophy found in Hermeticism phrased “As Above So Below”. This is a well known slogan in witchcraft and is represented in numerous ways like the sunset or moon light reflected in the waters below making a duplicate image.

Baphometas above so below mountain

Left: The Baphomet is indicating the same concept with the right arm pointing up and the left arm pointing down.


image“As Above So Below” is the opening phrase of The Emerald Tablet which is part of the Hermetica, which are magical documents held in high regard by Western Occultism.
It is said to be attributed to Hermes Trismegistus which is where philosophic and religious beliefs form Hermeticism.

Above: Older girl in video wearing an emerald stone.

In the video we are shown an emerald ring only when the younger girl states

“They don’t like us”.

The older girls replies “I know”.

The younger girl states “Why”.

It is then we cut to, in what appears to be the visual answer being the emerald ring on the finger.

Hermes Trismegistus is depicted as holding an emerald upon which all Egyptian philosophy is written.

The opening lines of the Emerald Tablet read

“True, without falsehood, certain and most true, that which is above is the same as that which is below, and that which is below is the same as that which is above, for the performance of miracles of the One Thing. And as all things are from the One, by the meditation of One, so all things have their birth from this One Thing by adaptation. The Sun is its Father, the Moon its Mother, the Wind carries it in its belly, its nurse is the Earth. This is the Father of all perfection, or consummation of the whole world. Its power is integrating, if it be turned into earth.

You shall separate the earth from the fire, the subtle from the gross, suavely, and with great ingenuity and skill. Your skillful work ascends from earth to heaven and descends to earth again, and receives the power of the superiors and of the inferiors. So thou hast the glory of the whole world–therefore let all obscurity flee from thee. This is the strong force of all forces, overcoming every subtle and penetrating every solid thing. So the world was created. Hence all were wonderful adaptations, of which this is the manner. Therefore I am called Hermes Trismegistus having the three parts of the philosophy of the whole world What I have to tell is completed concerning the Operation of the Sun.”

Tarot - The MagicianPart of the Hermetica, The Book of Thoth, is supposedly where we get the modern Tarot of which has one specific card called “The Magician” which depicts this very concept the right hand pointing up and the left down.

Interestingly I must bring to your attention Albert Pike’s Morals and Dogma where he states

“The Hermetic Art is therefore, at the same time a religion, a philosophy, and a natural science. As a religion, it is that of the Ancient Magi and the Initiates of all ages; as a philosophy, we may find its principles in the school of Alexandria and the theories of Pythagoras; as a science, we must inquire for its processes of Paracelsus, Nicholas Flamel, and Raymond Lulle.”

Firstly did you notice anything there? Ring any bells?
Are you a Harry Potter fan? Who is Nicholas Flamel? You are being indoctrinated, and initiated unbeknownst to you. Wake Up before the dreams all over.

nicolasflamel harry Potter 1

Left: In the first movie of Harry Potter we can clearly see the Name Nicholas Flamel.

Not surprising since J K Rowling’s hero is H P Blavatsky.


Secondly when Albert Pike claims this as science, it is science as so far as 1 Timothy 6:20 is concerned

“O Timothy, keep that which is committed to thy trust, avoiding profane and vain babblings, and oppositions of science falsely so called”

This is a “science falsely so called” in which one of the central methods is “vain babblings” aka spell casting, murmuring and peeping, chanting, mantras and symbolic geometric mantra’s called yantras in Hinduism.

Consider this explanation

“As above, so below; as below, so above.” This maxim implies that the transcendent God beyond the physical universe and the immanent God within ourselves are one.” Ronald S. Miller and the editors of New Age Journal As Above, So Below, 1992 from Eugene Peterson’s Message: Part 2 (As Above, So Below) by Warren Smith

The end doctrine of all current thought is moving beyond the current materialism and atheism and towards self deification of every single human being on this earth and the deification of everything (pantheism) and the presence of god in everything (panentheism.)

The depiction of “As Above So Below” is represented by two triangles. One pointing up and one pointing down.


male    :     female:

osiris   :           isis

sun      :         moon

fire        :    water

thus just like Avicci’s tattoo


This is one type of Hexagram as the two base lines are counted.

The number of man is well known as being represented as 6 and it is this symbol that best represents this, and the Bible is clear that the man of sin is represented by 600 60 and 6. Revelation 13:18.

We are told

“… the Hexagram is also a clever, graphic form of 666a feature that uniquely belongs to this symbol and none other.  It is used extensively by a variety of Black Magic, Witchcraft and New Age, so-called “channelling” (occult) groups for the invocation and/or the conjuring up of demons.  As a pictographic emblem, … the six-pointed star, contains a six, within a six, within a six.  (Count the sides of each triangle facing the clockwise direction, the sides facing the counter-clockwise direction, and the third six – the sides of the inner hexagon). ” http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/False%20Religions/Illuminati/illuminati_exposed-part_2.htm



  “… the most significant graphic representation of the number 6 is when a common (EARTH) Hexagram… is represented with a common base, forming a diamond – AIR...  


Or alternatively when their tips touch forming an hourglass shape – WATER



Or a partial overlap, with the base of the upper, passing through the upper one-third point of the lower – FIRE (d).



If we look again at a standard six pointer, we have all three sets of external triangles connected by their apexes.  Also, by connecting all the internal opposite points within the internal hexagon thus formed, alas we find one pair of triangles with their tips touching and two pairs with common base-lines.  A multiple representation of 666.” http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/False%20Religions/Illuminati/illuminati_exposed-part_2.htm

Here is another example of this representation

Water and Fire Triangle

Note the above picture shows the idea that fire and water symbology of Avicci produce the hexagram. This will be important later when we see this visualised in the concert footage from Miami.

As Madam Blavatsky’s Theosophical Glossary informs us

“Solomon’s Seal. The symbolical double triangle, adopted by the Theosophical Society and by many Theosophists. …the pentagram is the triple triangle–the six-pointed star being the hexalpha (See ‘Pentacle’… The way a triangle points determines its meaning. If upwards, it means the male element and divine fire; downwards, the female and the waters of matter; upright, but with a bar across the top, air and astral light; downwards, with a bar–the earth or gross matter, etc.” – H.P. Blavatsky, Theosophical Glossary

imageUnderstand that this was written before the establishment of Israel in 1948 and adopted as the flag as displayed below as the national Flag of Israel which they call the Magen David aka The Shield of David.

What is astounding here is the description does not end there stating

  • “The triangle with the broad base up is the male principle (spirit of fire – red) Jehovah White and positive.
  • The triangle with the broad base down is the female principle (spirit of water – blue) Jehovah Black and negative. 
  • The symbolic representation of which is sexual union.” H.P. Blavatsky, Theosophical Glossary

Thus when we look at the two triangles of Avicci they are both black meaning Jehovah and negative. (Understand they do not believe Jehovah is a good god.)

When the scripture says in 1 John 5:19

“… we know that we are of God, and the whole world lieth in wickedness.”

We can see how true that is when we see it operating in plain sight around us yet beyond our understanding.

That is why I am writing these blogs for vs 20 and 21 in that same chapter state

“And we know that the Son of God is come, and hath given us an understanding, that we may know him that is true, and we are in him that is true, even in his Son Jesus Christ. This is the true God, and eternal life.  21 Little children, keep yourselves from idols. Amen.”

He has given us understanding so we may know him and we are in him. A most comforting truth when you know you are to be kept no matter what you may face.

The conclusion in vs 21 is most important for we are warned to keep ourselves from idols. These can be any representation of things above on earth or below the earth as per Exodus 20:4-5

4 Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth:  5 Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me;

These symbols are the representation of ancient idols. Israel was judged for worshipping Remphan or Chiun (Acts 7:43, Amos 5:26) represented by the menorah which they disguised by fashioning the base into a hexagon as shown here by the Romans who sacked and destroyed Jerusalem as the final judgement of God on His Old Covenant people for abomination as they were given 40 years to repent from spiritual adultery and come to Messiah. If you read the Torah, the first 5 books of the Bible, the explicit instructions on how to construct the temple furniture does not tell them to do this.

The Arch of Titus Menorah Rephan

The level of occultism hidden in plain sight in the music video is astounding. Yet it blew me away when i decided to look at the whole video.

As I ran ever more carefully through the video I noticed another potential symbol where as we first get into the concert we approach a slither of a doorway that leads out to the stage where we can see the DJ.

I was sure this was a doorway to something but we go through only to have the DJ just performing, and yet the was a incredible quick flash between the cut.

After trying to examine the flash I was able to extract the following frame


Three hexagonal lights. I was astounded that after virtually completing this document I was still finding more stuff.

Comparing this with what I just explained, what do you think is going on here.



Continuing through the video the scene below shows us the elder girl heading go off and finding a place they belong.


At one point she rides through the straight and narrow rows of crops towards the mountain.

At this point she rides under a bridge.

Considering the level of symbolism in this video I decided to insert this feature last as it made total sense in the overall scheme.

The fact she is riding under the bridge tells me she is taking the left hand path or black magic. Not that white magic is any better.

The bridge is a symbol not too many are acquainted with but it is associated with the bridge builder.

Who is the bridge builder you may ask.

In the mystery religions at Babylon there was the high priest whose name came across into Rome as the Pontifex Maximus which means bridge builder between man and God specifically.

Today this is known as The Pontiff or the Pope.

Thus in this we see two ways. The dialectical way. The double mindedness of Satan.

As Jesus said a kingdom divided against itself will fall.

The way of the Pope is the High Road, White, Right etc, the way of the girl is the low road, black and Left.

It does not matter which road you take they both lead to the middle way and not the narrow way. You must distinguish that difference.

I will leave the Pope for further comments in other postings.


Now when the older girl is at the Avicci concert in the city we find another alternate symbol of the same genre.


Above: The A and the V in AVICII make an open ended triangle pointing up and down. These are called a chevrons.

Stargate Chevron

(In the Sci Fi show Stargate they have to encode 7 chevrons to dial a galactic destination aka another stargate. In Stargate Atlantis I think they have to dial 8 to go interstellar.)

Again what is interesting even here is that the symbols on the star gate are incredibly like sigel’s.

Stargate Chevron meets Earth sigel


What is even more eye opening is that the chevron code for earth as seen above is a upward pointing triangle with a dot at the top (The Generative point). We will see this again in an Mercedes Ad shortly as a not so subtle background addition.


Quoting from another site

“If we look at two chevrons, incomplete triangles, one V with an inverted V on the bottom, with both their points touching each other we get a whole new meaning to X. X can mean the female (V) meeting the male (inverted V). The meeting of two humans, face to face. They meet at the X-spot. This is even more symbolic if have a circle with an X inside. X or the cross has been used to denote matter, (masculinity) while the circle means spirit (femininity). X can also be used to interpret the four elements, which are often depicted as triangles. They have combined together, and in the centre we have the spot. The exact point which has the most power. This point would be a place where the fifth element would be located, in-between the four other elements. The quinta essentia, is the element that hermetic philosophers and alchemists would search for, and was often hinted at in symbols throughout alchemical texts.” http://rosshyslop.wordpress.com/2013/05/

Thus as the Theosophical Glossary stated one represents the male the other the female. Joined together is sexual union. The juncture or the 5th Element point is also called the generative principle.

This though can be seen more thoroughly in comparison with As Above So Below from the following scripture

Genesis 6:4

“There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.”

Thus there is very good reason to suggest this all implies the unity of spiritual beings with earthly beings. Like as the quote at the beginning the unifying of spiritual and earthly.

In this instance when joined together they make the hexagram or commonly known as “The Star of David” “The Seal of Solomon” or the “Seal of Vishnu”.

In this instance of the T-Shirt though it forms The Set Square and Compass used by the Free Masons which is just missing the base line of the triangles. Which is what the A and the V are missing.

Compass and Hexagram

Below: The Masonic Set Square and Compass



“Suppose now that, from whatever
point of the infinite above you, a hand holds another compass or square, then the lines of the celestial triangle will meet of necessity those of the compass of science and will form therewith the mysterious star of Solomon.” pg 6 The History of Magic by Eliphas Levi

He writes in his footnote:

The conventional Hexagram presents in pictorial symbolism the root
doctrine of the Hermetic Emerald Tablet : ” That which is above is equal
to that which is below.” It is the sign of the interpenetration of worlds.


Notice the above diagram the top row depicts the open base line symbol for fire. The lower row depicts the open base line for water.



Left: Note the girl walking down the miserable drab town is wearing what looks like an upside down triangle with the base line missing and some letter at the top. Not half like the above diagram.




I could be mistaken though because the clearer image when she rides into the city is considerably more like a phoenix rising out of the ashes. A legend I assume you are familiar with but in the occult is termed by the phrase Ordo Ab Chao ie: Order out of Chaos. The classic statement of objective for Freemasonry and other secret societies.

Again the pattern is destroying to rebuild anew like the twin towers in New York.





Note The Upright Triangle is classified here by Cardinal Bembo (yes Cardinal) as Hermes.




Yet there are varying forms of hexagram.

For example:



Above: The magical Head of the Zohar / Sohar is the very same symbol that represents Avicci. There is some clear witchcraft going on.

Albert Pike writes regarding this in his Morals and Dogma saying

“The Royal Secret, of which you are a Prince, if you are a true adept…is that which the Sohar  terms The Mystery of the Balance. It is the Secret of the Universal Equilibrium…Such, my Brother, is the True Word of a Master Mason; such is the true Royal Secret, which makes possible, and shall at length make real, the Holy Empire of true Masonic Brotherhood.”

This is about finally bringing in the same kingdom as Nimrod did with Babel, but because mankind has seen the benefits of the righteousness of Christ and received in the blessings that have come about from nations even winking at the truth let alone fully embracing it, it has taken until now at the advent of mass communication and media that any useful attack has been even possible.

This kingdom must be one that abandons the love of God and encourage and promote the love of self, so that the love of many will wax cold. Corruption of all that is good.

This is certainly the predicament Christians let alone the world find themselves in.

The attack may not be physical, not yet anyway, but it is more sinister and pervasive assaulting our senses and our sensibilities.

Another telling image from the video of the older girl going to Avicci’s concert in the city (I would hazard to call Babylon) the following:


Right: The crescent moon is representative of the womb and the female deities known as Isis, Ishtar, Ashtereth, Diana, Mary, and oddly enough Allah.

The lingam or phallus being also represented in other places as the Oblisk etc. It is here symbolising the unity of the male and female if you get my drift. Also depicted as a boat and mast in other art work.

Pentagram and the five elementsThe symbolism in the above picture and lower picture occur in a pyramid on stage behind the DJ. Especially the upper capstone. Picture shown further down.

This is so significant it beggars description.

It is this blank area that is what is seen on the American dollar bill as the Eye in the Capstone. Horus. Thus the performance is taking on a form of magic ritual.

Below: fire towards ascension, sea of flames

imageInvoking and banishing hexagrams





It is clear from the diagram to the Right that what Avicci is actually doing is performing an occult ritual of invocation.

Consider that the Air hexagram in the diagram combined with the use of fire in his performance is formulating the Earth hexagram. A very powerful occult symbol.

What might be helpful is if the entire footage of the concert could be seen, but that would be really redundant in total since it is clear what we have here.

In this connexion, it is important to note that, in the geometrical symbolism of the cosmos, all circular forms relate to the sky or heaven, all squares to the earth, and all triangles (with the apex at the top) to fire and to the urge towards ascension inherent in human nature. Hence, the triangle also symbolizes the communication between earth (the material world) and heaven (the spiritual world).” Dictionary of Symbols by J. E. Cirolt

The fire inherent in human nature is the sin nature and the lusts thereof.

As Eliphas Levi’s History of Magic states

“The recurring efforts of the Astral Light to disintegrate and absorb entities are part of its nature ; its ceaseless currents have a wearing effect like water and it consumes even as fire, for it is the very essence and dissolving force of fire. The spirit of perversity and the love of destruction which characterise those whom it governs are instincts of this force. They are further consequent on the suffering of the soul, which is conscious of incomplete life and feels torn in opposite directions. The soul yearns to make an end of itself, yet fears to die alone, and therefore would include all creation in its destruction. Such astral  perversity assumes frequently the form of the hatred of children ; an unknown power impels certain subjects to kill them, and imperious voices seem to demand their death.” pg 191.

This explains the reason our society is falling into terrible decay and debauchery, and why heinous plans have been put in motion to attack the health and well being of people and children by powerful Corporate and Government leaders.

Wicked powers both spiritual and men in power are seeking to make perverse our culture, our minds and our desires.

As above so below then in this working of evil is inflaming our fallen desires drawing our thoughts, attention, strength and time into contemplation of wickedness and sin and in turn rejecting the blessing of God, embracing the curse and opening the door for the hand of Satan to work to a greater and greater extent as they force the hand of Gods Judgement.

As scripture states in

Matthew 24:37

But as the days of Noe were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.

Luke 17:28-30

Likewise also as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold, they planted, they builded;  29 But the same day that Lot went out of Sodom it rained fire and brimstone from heaven, and destroyed them all.  30 Even thus shall it be in the day when the Son of man is revealed.

In witchcraft they think they can control the higher beings or forces, even God almighty (how deceived they are if they can even hold to such a concept).

I think the following gives us a hint as to what they are working towards.

“Prometheus, says the classical fable, having stolen
fire from heaven, gave life thereby to images formed of
earth and water, for which crime he was blasted and
chained by Jupiter.” pg 111 The History of Magic by Eliphas Levi.

One thing I appreciate about the mythology of the mystery religions, is not the mythology itself but the fact that the more I discover about the story’s and legends of paganism, I see clearly how our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ made an open display of them. Take for example the prior fable about Prometheus as detailed by Eliphas Levi, which is amazingly similar to Revelations 13:1, 11; 13:15.

What Christ did on that cross is so far beyond even the full understanding of us Saints, Priests and Kings that it is still causing ramifications echoing throughout history causing ongoing effects. It actually appears the victory won on that day was but a drop in an ocean that has caused ripples that are culminating in a tsumani, dredging up the filth of man in the current age and washing it up on the sands of time for all the world to come to gasp with horror at what we are without Him, and how great He is.

Let me quote

“Their scientific system, actually a form of witchcraft, is based on alchemy and magic. Its process is one of Universal Motion, designed to purposely foment diabolical chaos so that order may come out of two dynamic competing forces, Ordo Ab Chao. Their objective is the Great Work, the changing of man created in God‘s image into the image of a serpent-being void of morality and void of righteous, just values. In other words, the Great Work is designed to create and produce a race of soul-less satanic creatures.
To effect their Great Work, to transform and transmutate the world and humanity into the “new soul-less creature,” heaven and earth must be destroyed, crushed, and thoroughly converted into a new paradigm. In essence, heaven and earth are to become hell. The will of Satan shall be done on Earth as it is in hell. This is the exalted, “Royal Secret.” Codex Magica by Tex Marrs.

Heard the term paradigm shift recently.

This explains again what is taking place in Avicci’s concerts and video. The lowest levels of hell are attempting to be raised to our realm. Our way of life, our way of thinking and living.

The very attack against godliness, righteousness, God and His people (which is who the drably dressed people supposed to represent, in the first town the girls wake up in) are seen very clearly in the New Bibles they are trying to push into Churches today and have made astronomical strides into it.

imageTake for example The Message Bible by Eugene Peterson. This is one I wish to look at before I end this blog. I have not space to embark upon showing how the mystic contemplative movement in the church is exactly the same spirit as I have shown here. So Eugene Petersons “The Message” will have to suffice.

It is here we have come full circle to the topic we first addressed at the beginning of this blog.

Let’s examine Colossians 1:16 firstly from a reliable translation, the King James Version or Authorised Version

“For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him:”(AV)

Now let’s examine what The Messages makes of this.

Colossians 1:16

“For everything, absolutely everything, above and below, visible and invisible…. everything got started in him and finds its purpose in him.” (MSG)

As you can see there is nothing here that constitutes or justifies “Above and Below

If Above and Below is applicable then why didn’t he render it Heaven and Hell since Heaven is ABOVE and HELL is below, EARTH IS NOT BELOW. Below is not where we are. We are not below we are “here”. The Scriptures are not providing a cosmological reference point, it is merely pointing out what things were created by God.

H P Blavatsky wrote in her book Secret Doctrine

“Everything in the Universe follows analogy. “As above, so below;” Man is the microcosm of the Universe. That which takes place on the spiritual plane repeats itself on the Cosmic plane. Concretion follows the lines of abstraction; corresponding to the highest must be the lowest; the material to the spiritual.” Pg 177 Secret Doctrine Volume 1 by H P Blavatsky

What is worse is The Message slips this well know phrase of witchcraft into the Lords Prayer.

Firstly how it reads from a reliable source once again:

Matthew 6:9-13

“After this manner therefore pray ye: Our Father which art in heaven, Hallowed be thy name. 10 Thy kingdom come. Thy will be done in earth, as it is in heaven. 11 Give us this day our daily bread. 12 And forgive us our debts, as we forgive our debtors. 13 And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil: For thine is the kingdom, and the power, and the glory, for ever. Amen.” (AV)

Now from The Message

Matthew 6:9-13

“With a God like this loving you, you can pray very simply. Like this: Our Father in heaven, Reveal who you are. Set the world right; Do what’s best best—as above, so below. Keep us alive with three square meals. Keep us forgiven with you and forgiving others. Keep us safe from ourselves and the Devil. You’re in charge!“ (MSG)

What is critical here is that “as above so below as below so above”, for that is the full quote of the Emerald Tablet, is not the same as “In Earth as it is in Heaven”.

Why you might ask.

Well the key point missing here is that in all forms witchcraft the strict definition from scripture is that witchcraft is equated to rebellion in 1 Samuel 15:23

“For rebellion is as the sin of witchcraft, and stubbornness is as iniquity and idolatry.”

As above So below intimates that the will of the lower can also be imposed upon the higher. That God can be brought down to mans level and man up to Gods level and visa versa.

Witchcraft is self will, not “Thy Will be Done” aka God’s will.

Jesus made it plain as to who enters the kingdom of God in Matthew 7:21

“Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.”

This is the key problem with Eugene Peterson’s rendition of the Lord Prayer (among others). Witchcraft is the imposition of your own will onto God. Be careful He does not allow you the desires of your own heart.

Jesus showed us the way by praying in Luke 22:42

“Saying, Father, if thou be willing, remove this cup from me: nevertheless not my will, but thine, be done.

Jesus was not an “as above so below” kind of fellow. He was about doing the work of His Father in Heaven.

Yet the imagery goes further in the music video.

As pointed out previously there is a pyramid on stage.


Above: pyramid made up of little triangles with the apex like an eye with a bright light (illumination) at the top. It also doubles as the mountain with the cave.

You can see a light shining from the apex. This is like the pyramid on the American dollar note with the capstone not full attached.

Yet in a clearer permutation of the pyramid it creatively appears also as two giant upright triangles. Thus the two mountains becoming one mountain.


There are also other subsidiary signs that come through but detracted from what I was trying to show on the whole.

For Example in the concert, which is quite typical at concerts as most people are ignorant of Satan’s devices as are many Christians we see what is called the El Cornuto, the Devils horns or ignorantly “the sign of the rock”.

This is flashed the first moment you are in the concert



This one on the left is flashed just after the hexagonal lights I showed earlier in the document.


el diablo hand sign 3 ways of showing ithand signs







“People that are Christians now, but were Satanists, recognized President Clinton’s signal at his inauguration as a sign of Satan. The whole affair with him flashing the Satanic hand signal took only a couple of seconds.”
Fritz Springmeier
Bloodlines of the Illuminati

Above: Note No. 6 is sign of the horns.

4 signs of power

Above: Taken from the Al Azif Necronomicron where the instructional text reads

“These most potent signs shall be so formed with thy left hand when thou employeth them in ye Rites

Ye first sign is that of Voor and in nature it be ye true symbol of ye Old Ones.

Make ye thus whenever thou wouldst supplicate Those that ever waite beyond the Threshold.

Ye second sign is that of Kish and it breaketh down all barriers and openeth ye portals of ye Ultimate Planes.

In ye third place goeth ye Great Sign of Koth which sealeth ye Gates and guardeth ye pathways.

Ye forth sign is that of ye Elder Gods. It protecteth those who would evoke ye powers by night, and banish ye forces of menace and antagonism.

(Nota: Ye Elder Sign hath yet another form and when so enscribed upon ye grey stone of Mnar it serveth to hold back ye power of Ye Great Old Ones for all time.)”



Right: From the back cover of Anton LaVeys Satanic Bible which states inside

“This gesture is the Satanic salute, a sign of recognition between and allegiance of members of Satanism or other unholy groups.

I Love You Sign



Much debate over this hand sign has occurred accusing Helen Keller as being the creator of the sign.

I personally have not been able to find direct evidence for this but only circumstantial evidence at this time.

Yes there are clear connections of logical deduction, as Helen Keller was deeply committed to Sweedenborgianism, just like Dr Oz, and her views reflect theosophical teaching but more work needs to be done to establish a clear connection of fact, thus I leave this point for a further post on Hellen Keller since there is nothing but conjecture and circumstantial evidence accusing her of developing this sign.

imageContinuing with Avicci’s video just a split second after the horns you can still see in the frame, we can see another symbol. What many would consider the Mercedes Benz symbol.  This is another occult symbol.

Mercedes Benz commercial during superbowl


Left: Mercedes Benz Commercial during the super bowl. The points of the triangle meet in the background with one eye in each triangle. Oops coincidence?


Ben 10 Omnitrix toyBen 10 Omnitrix

We also find this self same concept in the children’s TV cartoon Ben 10 where his omnitrix device transforms him genetically into various alien beings.

Notice the Omnitrix toy on the far left also forms an X which is 4 triangles converging to form the “generative point”. Thus it is quite apt that Ben 10 is changed genetically by this device. (Like X-Men for example). Again kids are being taught esoteric occult concepts without their knowledge or their parents.

Ben 10 Omnitrix aka Stargate

In the cartoon it also utilises the same concept as previously shown used in Stargate with the usage of disk of addresses or this instance aliens to dial up.

Ben 10 Omnitrix diamond form

When the device is activated the two side triangles pass through each other and form Avicci’s logo where he can be genetically transformed, aka Sohar.

Renault logo

Yet this is not the only popular usages of this that come to mind. Also car manufacturer Renault also use this in their logo which is exactly like Avicci’s and in freemasonry. In a very clever way they also depicted the same concept of Ben 10 by the thin line at the top and bottom separating the up and down triangle into 2 sideways pointing triangles without their baselines.

We also find another clip that shows us right after the above screen capture from the music video, a hand with a ring on the index finger



The index finger is a attributed to Jupiter. If we cast our minds back the emerald ring was worn on the middle finger attributed to Saturn.


May I also bring your mind back into remembrance of Prometheus who stole fire from heaven and was “chained by Jupiter”.

What is important here is that these scenes need not be from an actual concert itself. This is why these things stand out far more than just generic footage from a concert. These specific clips are more likely than not in house to edit in later with actual concert footage.

The implications of this is that each and every gesture and symbol could planted specifically for a purpose. That is why it holds significance more so than if it was a random take of footage from a concert, but this is why I consider them as subsidiary symbols as they do have meaning, but what is implied by their use is simply unknown.

Just as a point of interest there is also clear product placement in the music video as well.

Avicci Denim and Supply Ralph Laurenimageimage

Interestingly the Sony Xpedia displays the date as Sunday 15th May. Whilst the other boring town peoples are most likely in church or have been to church, she has attended her  exciting “church” whilst the little girl is alone at 11:23pm.

We also find Ralph Lauren getting a mention too.


At the end they are walking to the place “where we belong” along a long and winding road.




The goddess of love, Aphrodite, is frequently depicted with roses around her head. Another name for Aphrodite is Hera depicted below.




The eye in the Triangle. The Eye of Horus or the Sun god.




Above: Hands raise in worship. The hand on the right has a ring on the ring finger denoting Apollo.

Matrix Zion partyThe party atmosphere is seemingly no different to the scene in Matrix Reloaded where the masses of semi naked people dance in Zion.

The name of the Avicci song Wake Me Up is equally synonymous with the whole premise of the matrix which is about Waking Up and getting people out of the matrix.

It is perfectly clear that not only this video but the concert itself is an incantation, a spell, a rebellion against God and righteousness to open up the gates of the lowest Hell “Avicci” so the above will be like below. Heaven forbid!


The Alternative Video

From what I have ascertained Avicci did not release their song in Ireland thus a local Irish band covered the song.

What is incredibly telling is the symbology in this video also, which I shall only show quickly as example.




Left and Below: Crowd offering the triangle sign.image






It’s like a worship service to the triangle aka Horus the Sun god.

Look below at Beyonce (member of Aleister Crowley’s OTO)

Beyonce triangle

and Jay Z who ensures his eye gets in the picture (member of Aleister Crowleys OTO)

Jay-Z triangle


imagebcodex_6Again like a choir but what is with the person all in white head to foot making a masonic sign for?

At the right we have a picture from Richardson’s 1860 Monitor of Freemasonry with the Master Mason giving the First Sign, or Due Guard.

Some other pictures below





Now concluding this, the point I wish to make is not the obvious.

The very fact I have had to write on this matter does not serve the glory of God.

Man is seeking the reunifying of all things as was what the very original Babel did. It was unified rebellion against God not unity under Him.

The artificial reunification has been formed by the hands of man, not as the scripture says of the stone that came out of heaven unformed by human hands.

I quote the concept of the Hegelian Dialectic as Kabbalistic teaching being used to control history (thinking God does not direct their actions for His own good ends for His people and the punishment of wicked)

“In the Arsenal Library there is a very curious manuscript entitled The Book of the Penitence of Adam and herein Kabbalistic tradition is presented under the guise of legend to the following effect : ‘ Adam had two sons —Cain, who signifies brute force, and Abel, the type of intelligence and mildness. Agreement was impossible between them ; they perished at each other’s hands ; and their inheritance passed to a third son, named Seth.
Here is the conflict of two opposing forces diverted to the advantage of a synthetic and united force.” Pg 41 History of Magic by Eliphas Levi

This story is of course false. This not what happened if you read the Biblical account, yet in this unity they seek the very unity that is believed in occultism, especially those who follow the Talmud which all occultism today seems to follow, the unity of man and woman into the hermaphrodite or the first androgyne. The supposed first creation of God prior to the fall from unity as imagined by occultists.

It is this philosophy that has been made academic by German Philosopher Georg Hegel in what is termed Hegelianism where you take two opposing views called thesis and antithesis and produce a synthesis. Aka Cain and Able coalescing in Seth according to Eliphas Levi.

The goal or outcome desired by the power brokers of this world is put well by Tex Marrs

“Man and the world must be ruined, destroyed, transformed into a barren, non-producing, hideously shaped wasteland.
Men are to be made feminine; women masculine. Marriage is to be perverted. No longer between man and woman, it shall be used also to join men with men and women to women. Abortion —the reckless slaughter of innocents —is to be applauded. Sex is to become rife with perversion. Children are given over to the terrible passions of lustful paedophiles. Spiritual values are converted to material desires. False Gods are exalted. False Bibles are invented. Murder and assassination become religious goals.” Codex Magica by Tex Marrs

This is not an outlandish baseless claim, you can see it happening as we speak.

Yet this is complete disregard to Jesus Christ who through Him all things are to be made one unto God the Father and put under His feet. Hebrew 2:8

Eliphas Levi says something similar

“Moloch is the fatality which devours infants. Satan and Nisroch are gods of hatred, fatality and despair. Astarte, Lilith, Nehamah, Ashtaroth are idols of debauchery and abortion. Adramelech is the god of murder, while Belial is that of eternal revolt and anarchy. Such are the monstrous conceptions of reason, when it pauses on the verge of extinction and slavishly worships its destroyer, so that it may reach the end of its torment by the destroyer absorbing it.” pg 191 The History of Magic

Thus in this we can also take with some liberality now and say the downward pointing black triangle could also be a veiled reference to lesbianism if not paedophilic1 in nature. The upside down black triangle is a symbol used by the lesbian movement. (Can I still call them that or did Island of Lesbos win the court case over the use of the term?)

Notice what pro gay and lesbian website http://www.lambda.org/symbols.htm states

Just as the pink triangle has been reclaimed, lesbians and feminists have begun using the black triangle as a symbol of pride and sisterhood.

So that this serves the glory of God, it is critical that it be understood that what you have learnt here is mere knowledge and in no way means you are on the narrow road that Jesus tells us we must walk.

In fact it is the very pervasiveness of these symbols and teaching in our society today that should get you thinking about this direct statement of Lucifarian David Spangler.

David Spangler is on the Board of Directors of Planetary Citizens, United Nations and has authored numerous New Age books. One book “The Birth of a New Age” written in 1977 calls for a “… Luciferic Initiation in the New Age.”

He also repeats the same saying

“Lucifer comes to give us the final … Luciferic initiation … that many people now and in the days ahead, will be facing—for it is an initiation into the New Age. … No one will enter the New World Order unless he or she will make a pledge to worship Lucifer. No one will enter the New Age unless he will take a Luciferian initiation.” Reflections On Christ

Understand we are all undergoing different levels of initiation, for the purpose of initiation is to subjugate the initiate to the will of the group. Occultism, Socialism, Paganism, Eastern Philosophy all go hand in hand and all work together because they are of the same root.

This then requires the initiate to humiliate and embarrass themself and perform some action that the group can hold over the initiate. (Consider Romans 8:1)

The requirement of action also invokes the aspect of breaking down conscience to the will of the group and thus begin the journey toward a seared conscience.

This is not the way Jesus Christ expects us to enter His kingdom.

Instead we come already guilty (Ephesians 2:8), with a burdened conscience which he removes from us. Removing all our shame for He bore ALL our shame and suffered our humiliation.

This is the very opposite of the world and Satan’s idea of initiation.

It is our requirement that we repent, that means be sorrowful over our sins ask for forgiveness from God the Father in heaven and leave those things behind us.

Over time God will change your heart by His Holy Spirit and you will learn to hate your sin, and your fleshly desires.

You will become virtually at war with yourself, as your renewed spirit resists the sinful desires of the flesh and worldly lusts. (1 Peter 2:11)

The only victory we can have over the world is the victory Jesus Christ gives us and it is clear the answer is “Take Up Your Cross and Follow Me”. (Mark 10:21)

Self will has to be transformed into God’s will. It isn’t easy, it is a surrounding bit by bit, little by little and it does hurt. (1 Corinthians 15:31 “I die daily”.The Hebrew for this Me’at Me’at  j[;m. j[;m.. Little by little.

It is all well and good knowing this information, but we are being bathed in initiating knowledge and culture to ready us for the New Age, and when we, our kids or even our grandkids get to the door of the New Age we may find we are more acclimatised to it than we first realised. A most dangerous situation to be in, because you will at that time not be offended by it either.

The only way to limit that is to take the words of Scripture seriously.

“I will set no wicked thing before my eyes.” Psalm 101:3

We must listen to the Spirit of God and remove our desires from TV, Movies, Most music and dancing. instead seek the will of the Lord on this issues before even thinking of incorporating them again into your life if He even directs you that way, which is most unlikely.

We are called to be a peculiar people, a sanctified people, separate unto the Lord.

The wicked hate separateness as in the threats of a number of New Agers I quote Barbara Marx Hubbard and what should be constituted as hate speech

“All those… maintaining that illusion of separation, will become extinct… Just as Cro-Magnon and Neanderthal humans became extinct…” Barbara Marx Hubbard ‘Happy Birthday Planet Earth pg 17.

Richard Kirby of the Society for Promoting Christian Knowledge states

“Christians know that a man must die to himself before he can… be born again in spirit. It may well be that mankind as a whole must be crucified, even unto death, before coming into it’s inheritance… Christians can say with Teilhard de Chardin, that death itself is beneficent, the only way to grow beyond forms which have served their limited purpose…, but with the serious and the worried, they look upon the possible extermination of the human race secure in the knowledge that it could be but a prelude to the resurrection of the species.”

Richard Kirby is also speaking from the same spirit as Hubbard and Spangler.

Holly wood has pushed this message too in many movies including The Day The Earth Stood Still, and The Matrix.

We are not of this world, only in it. We are ambassadors for Christ. We should be a light on a hill for the world to see, not a smoking wick that only adds to the pollution of the air (pneu/ma pnuma meaning breath or spirit aka spiritual pollution see Revelation 9).

As sojourners passing through, nothing we gain here we keep, let us use what we have to build the kingdom of God and win souls since proverbs says that is wise. (Proverbs 11:30)

Let’s snatch those trapped in the alchemy of this world, snatch them out of the fire, and deliver them through Christ Jesus unto their Father for his glory and their souls sake.

As the world holds it’s breath before plunging into the deep, let us use our last moments to get as many into the ark of Christ.

In The Glorious Name of Salvation

Copyright Copyright 2013 Dunce Scholar



1 I make mention of this in no light manner. Now that the Homosexual agenda has been successfully prosecuted in the mind of the cultural and even Christian milieu I must warn and will in time post regarding the next phase of cultural “change” that is coming.

This change is at the very least the lowering of the age of consent.

This will come about via an abundance of media stories about abuse everywhere, from all walks of life, and victims of all types of people.





See this from the Comedy Festival and notice at the end two children who they get in on the act. Disgraceful!

Another ad recently came across was from Amazon using children in a sexual context.


Amazon Ad Added 19th  August 2014


Another News report that I came across and added here 1 October 2014 about an Australian Judge who see incest and pedophilia being less of a taboo



There are copious others including the thousands if not hundreds of thousands of Catholic Priests.

The purpose of which not being for informing the public of pertinent issues but of desensitising the minds of the people to the issue, by over satiating the ears to the point of exhaustion.


77 thoughts on “Avicci’s Wake Me Up and the Symbolism in the Video Clip.”

  1. Hi, did you not know that some of the people have the tattoo symbol on their left arm such as the young girl but the older girls is on her right arm – some of the people in the video have the tattoo on the left and others on the right. By watching the video I see it in a different way… this is my definition and what the symbol means to me….. “We are all individual, we shouldn’t judge, and should accept everyone in life for their individualism, everyone should be accepted.” ….. and yes I have the 2 Triangle symbol Tattoo on my right arm and for me it is the meaning above as I have described.

    1. Thank you for your response. It is valuable to have feedback.
      It is interesting that the markings were on both left and right, certainly. Apart from conjecture though I cannot say for sure what that may mean. Thus I didn’t mention it. I could have explained it as coming together of both left and right paths in union (as you did infer by the statement “everyone should be excepted”) but there were more solid matters I felt better dealt with.

      I found your other comments insightful, let me gently explain how.

      Your statement

      “… this is my definition and what the symbol means to me…”

      When I commenced investigating this topic, I came with the understanding there may be something more to what Avicci was doing, and maybe not. (What you will find that this is not an attack on Avicci or Tim Berling, as I post more and more you will find this is a common denominator in the music industry.) I did not come looking at it from “my opinion” but rather to ascertain what authoritative material would tell me was going on here, if anything and how deep it goes.
      That is the difference between a position and an opinion.
      The education system that you and I and our parents were brainwashed in can be demonstrated in this one comment at an 1989 Governors Conference on Education in Kansas by Dr Shirley McCune who stated in her keynote speech

      “The revolution in curriculum is that we are no longer are teaching facts to children, we no longer see the teaching of facts and information as the primary outcome of education.”

      This is because what they are teaching is Thinking and Feeling skills, learning to justify ones opinion in spite of the facts.
      I hope to shortly complete a blog in the next month that goes into some detail on this, dealing with The Generation Gap. It is earth shattering.

      “… We are all individual…”

      This statement is ironic as you have the 2 triangle tattoos on your arm.
      I heard a preacher over 20 years ago make a comment on observing young school girls walking down the street all dressed like Madonna. He wondered what was going on then remarked

      “They all looked the same because they were trying to be different.”

      We do not appreciate how completely manipulated we are by the genius minds of brainwashing and propaganda.
      If you examine both Hollywood and the Music industry, both are used to bring conformity and homogenisation of culture, language, beliefs and values whist telling you to claim your right to be an “individual”. They are preachers of lies and deliver souls to slavery.

      “… we shouldn’t judge…”

      You may wish to reconsider that social maxim. I seriously doubt you practise that, if you do you would be the most debt burdened, destitute, naked, starving “individual”.
      You judge all the time.
      The salesman who comes to your door (or religious nut), every time you go to vote, etc.
      If you shouldn’t judge then, I would expect that you do not judge an organisation like NAMBLA or “individuals” who like children for their sexual pleasure. If you did that would be hypocrisy.
      If you shouldn’t judge I would expect that you do not judge Islam and the waging of Jihad, the killing in the name of their god?
      Have you ever given Adolph Hitler a bad mouthing? Why?
      Don’t judge Hitler, though there are very top level world leaders who have stated that very fact, that what he did was not bad.
      It is this very phrase that is prime example of brainwashing that has been passed down from generation to generation.
      This phrase is one of the most misquoted verses from the Bible. Let’s read what it actually says in totality.

      Matthew 7:1-5
      “Judge not, that ye be not judged. 2 For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again. 3 And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother’s eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye? 4 Or how wilt thou say to thy brother, Let me pull out the mote out of thine eye; and, behold, a beam is in thine own eye? 5 Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother’s eye.”

      This is not saying to not judge except in the circumstance of being a hypocrite. It would be wrong for me to tell others do not do this when I did the same. That is why we must examine ourselves and repent of sin and believe what God says.

      As Paul says in Romans 2:20-24

      “An instructor of the foolish, a teacher of babes, which hast the form of knowledge and of the truth in the law. 21 Thou therefore which teachest another, teachest thou not thyself? thou that preachest a man should not steal, dost thou steal? 22 Thou that sayest a man should not commit adultery, dost thou commit adultery? thou that abhorrest idols, dost thou commit sacrilege? 23 Thou that makest thy boast of the law, through breaking the law dishonourest thou God? 24 For the name of God is blasphemed among the Gentiles through you, as it is written.”

      It is important that if you are going to make a judgment it is wise to take that judgment upon your own heart first and make sure you are right before God and be not a hypocrite. That is the point of “judge not lest ye be judged.”

      John 7:24

      “Judge not according to the appearance, but judge righteous judgment.”

      Not unrighteous judgement.

      “…should accept everyone in life for their individualism, everyone should be accepted…”

      Is everyone an individual? Is anyone an individual?
      Jesus the Messiah was a true individual, and yet He was doing the Fathers will.
      We are just like everyone else in the world, whilst doing our own will.
      Do we really understand what being an individual is, unless we understand the will of God for our lives.
      If we are not walking in the will of God then we cannot be truly an individual nor free but are bound by the community, and finding what we have in common we become one with the many and loose our individualism. (One with Avicci fans who pride themselves on being individuals)
      The world decries true individuals, and hates them. If you are getting along sweet with the world you are clearly not an individual. Jesus calls His people the “called out ones” this is translated in the Bible as Church but really should be translated as congregation. They are separate from the world. In it but not of it.
      If you want to be an individual, and judge righteous judgement God must call you, you must hear Him and repent and believe Him.
      If we hold to the above statement you made we will end up with chaos and destruction, because this comes down to Alistair Crowley’s statement “Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the law.”
      If we all lived by that we most certainly would all die by that.

      Matthew 12:37
      “For by thy words thou shalt be justified, and by thy words thou shalt be condemned.”

      This is of course all designed for that very purpose.
      This is proof that we have been manipulated to believe a lie.

      Toleration is no toleration unless it tolerates the intolerant.
      There are only two ways. The way of the many, the world and the collective consciousness. There is no individual in that. (You’re Borg)
      or the way of Christ, His Father and the Will of God. There is absolute individualism in that for God make His children to accomplish specific works no one else can accomplish.
      The question is, Can you hear the call?
      You may want to reassess you individualism. Seek Knock and Find.

      May the Lord bless you in understanding, and give you eyes to see.


      1. Don’t assume that everyone is a christian or believes in god at all. I am an atheist, the rules you assign from the bible and christian doctrine mean nothing to me!

      2. Do not assume I am writing this for people who are not Christian or do not believe in God. If this is not for you. You can go on your merry way. I am reaching out to those who believe God, knowingly and those who have yet to realise God has put it in their heart to believe and are seeking.
        I am not here to argue. You complain about the “eagle” which I consider a phoenix but ignore the whole larger issues brought up.
        I am not interested in debate because that tends to play the game of change dynamics (thesis vs antithesis = synthesis)
        If you do not believe in Jesus Christ or God then I do not see why any of this should annoy you or why you would bother reading it?

      3. Powerful comment. My heart was stirred as God has been speaking to me about judging and individualism a lot lately. God is real and this proves it. Why would anyone want to be anything other than what God made him to be? We only find our true selves when we find God. Not the other way around like the world says… Find yourself and You will become like God and find Him. Try it I dare you and your life will become a living hell. If it hasn’t already… When we choose God first over the self, life becomes glorious and blessed. I’m living proof I’ve been through heaven and hell… Saw the face of God and the face of the devil and everything in between demons and angels… Id rather have heaven. The other way was no way to live.

    2. Praise God! He is a good Father. I am thankful he has sent his son to die for our sins. He has restored a relationship once lost. He loves us so much and this is confirmation of just that! Every tongue will confess and every knee will bow. We will sing praise and shout Hallelujah! Hallelujah! Hallelujah! Praise, Honor, and Glory be to God.

  2. So… what’s the upshot of all this? Do you really believe in witchcraft and symbolism as a means to… Well to what? To undermine society, or morals, or something else?

    Also, to me, the girls, who look alike, were simply sisters, cousins, or maybe even mother and daughter, who in a poor and small countryside home of the past (as the village in all is depicted, like you describe yourself) would often share a bed for sleeping purposes.

    How you see these two people and jump to insinuations of lesbian pedophilia is really beyond me. It seems a healthy step back from your preoccupations and a breath of fresh air are in order.

    1. Thanks Martin for you comment.

      The Upshot is found in Christ Jesus, for the downshot is that this world is in decay.
      History tends to operate in peaks and troughs, we are on the rollercoaster ride into a huge trough.

      Witchcraft is merely the imposition of obtaining ones own will as opposed to doing God’s Will “Thy Will Be Done”.
      When the scriptures state that “the whole world lies in wickedness” it is in fact entirely correct. 1 John 5:19
      Our very existence on this planet throughout our lives from cradle to grave is the relentless pursuit of fulfilling ones own will. I want, driven by what we see, and what we feel.
      Scripture again says “rebellion is as the sin of witchcraft.” 1 Samuel 15:23
      To walk in the narrow way requires dying to oneself, taking up ones cross. This is not something that any man can do in their own strength.
      Either God empowers them by His Holy Spirit or they remain, relatively unconcerned in their sin.

      Symbols rule the world. How many people have died for a symbol, a flag, an ensign?
      Symbols of religion, of politics, of kingdoms, nationhood, families.
      Symbols are a language, and if you can change the language of a people, you change the people and their culture.
      It is a biofeedback loop. Change the culture, change the language. Change the language, change the culture. The problem the social engineers had to overcome and did overcome was inertia.
      That was solved by introducing perpetual crises.
      To deny that symbols do not undermine would also mean that symbols cannot inspire people. We know that is not true.

      The girls in bed, as I said in the blog, is conjecture. If you are to do anything with it, pigeon hole it for future confirmation else it is nothing.
      The best explanation I found was that they were the same girl (when she was younger and older) as the lyrics intimate.
      If you examine the current mental and cultural climate (the real meaning of climate change) the next phase in altering values is moving from making homosexuality and GLBT the new norm towards other new “norms”.
      When you watch TV question it, ask why this or that was paced in the ad or show, instead of something more associated to the topic. Do not allow the TV to achieve the first 2-5 minute effect where your frontal lobe is disabled. This is a scientific fact. Learn techniques to keep evaluating and remain switched on.
      If you look at the very end of the Blog on Avicci you will find a few links to the commencement of social change and accepting a new low.
      This will be a process of around 20-40 years, but it has begun to be ramped up.
      We will also see in this time the possibility of social acceptance for harems and the lowering of the age of consent before a fully fledged acceptance of varying forms of paedophilia are brought out of the shadows and “normalised”.

      This is the coming BRAVE NEW WORLD. Even Huxley’s Brave New World makes brief mention of the normality of the sexuality of children.
      To get a good grip on this see a DVD Documentary called Kinsey, who employed paedophiles to conduct experiments on children and babies and whose reports influenced the education system and the court systems.
      That’s if you wish to peer into the darkness, can suggest seeking the light of Christ first who pierces darkness. Even the darkness of our souls.

      Seek the well way and be well.

      Dunce Scholar

  3. Strange before you write pages and pages of something about hidden meaning you should perhaps look at it from a direct point of view the symbol is the stop go and volume symbols from the digital modern world and as a DJ Avicci uses it as a logo just like every other corporate entity or artist in the world he has a logo a symbol. So think of the Occam\’s Razor theorem which is a line of reasoning that says the simplest answer is often correct. so it’s a music video from a music video and filled with logo’s including Avicci logo of forward reverse in a music console

    1. For a great many years of my life I have assumed in the inherent goodness of people.
      All my life I have been very foolish.

      I am glad you brought up Occam’s Razor, as you do raise a good point, but the circumstances render it moot.

      The “direct point of view” is the view most people hold on most issues, for example the media tells you something and one assumes it is true because the images one sees proves what you are being told. Very foolish.

      This was our upbringing through the education system. Everything was reduced to simplistic ideas, English, History but amusingly not in science when dealing with the issue of evolution which always appeals to Occam’s Razor but rarely uses it correctly.

      History was a whitewashing of the religious influence and driving force behind wars, tragedies and conspiracies, simplifying and reducing them down to merely materialistic acts of economics and or politics (absent of religious motivations) (let alone spiritual influence, but that may be going too far for many today to accept).

      Occam’s Razor when applied to esoteric doctrine is self defeating since esoteric teaching is concealed and hidden knowledge, thus as 33rd Degree Freemason Albert Pike states in his Morals and Dogma

      “Masonry, like all the Religions, all the Mysteries, Hermeticism and Alchemy, conceals its
      secrets from all except the Adepts and Sages, or the Elect, and uses false explanations
      and misinterpretations of its symbols to mislead those who deserve only to be misled…”

      If one was to apply Occam’s Razor faithfully to that statement one would have to conclude that one must assume deeper meanings and levels in the symbols and words used around us which renders the simplicity of Occam’s Razor redundant.

      Occam’s razor works well in the laws of nature and science, but when applied to human beings makes the foolish mistake that only the simple surface evidence is factual and generally leads one to the false assumption that man is basically good.

      As I mentioned in the Article Tim Berling made it clear what Avicci means stating

      “In Buddhism it means the lowest level of hell… I was honestly just looking for a MySpace name and had remembered the word Avicii from a friend. It just sounded cool”.

      Enter the religious and esoteric. “I was honestly just looking…” should I apply Occam’s Razor to that statement or do human beings spin the truth?

      Occam’s Razor cannot be applied to all cases and all situations, else one would be a very deceived person.

      But what is important in your point that I would like to emphasise is that to assume deeper meaning to everything at all times in all places would also entail one being mentally unstable and insane.

      One must give opportunity for others to prove themselves thieves and liars or truthful and trustworthy. That requires a willingness to suffer patiently and allow God to work good through all things as Romans 8:28-30 states

      “And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to his purpose. 29 For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren. 30 Moreover whom he did predestinate, them he also called: and whom he called, them he also justified: and whom he justified, them he also glorified.”

      God has given me grace and it is criminal that I not do the same to others.

      1. Very well written and thought out response and i agree that the concept of simplicity is impossible to use against man in the concepts of a scientific method where laws and rules usually act in a repeatable and expected manner. In this case the statement i made about Occam’s razor was more to the point of looking at this in regards to what it was designed to do and say. The hidden meaning you pointed out could be true but what would be the purpose since so few people even understand what your statements mean or the concepts behind them. Avicci may be all you say what we do know is he’s a very successful DJ and mostly because he ties in to huge corporate entities who pay him to spread their consumerism goals to the youth the are his market. The real purpose of his video as I perceive it is simple it’s a advertisement to push the glam and style of Ralph Laurens Denim and supply and reinforce the shallow belief that beautiful people have some wonderful hidden life and that by buying the trappings (i.e) $200 dollar and up Levi’s and cotton shirts you can be accepted into the beautiful people which is what this demographic strives for. so all you say may be true but more realistically this is a clothing and lifestyle advertisement while just as hidden and perhaps as negative as the concepts of evil you see in it i think the sinple reality is probably correct here it’s another method of selling overpriced clothes to young adults and teens. Nothing deeper of mrs evil then that. You could be right but I don’t believe enough people even understand your points for them to be the reality remember the education level of the world. Deep thought and searching for truth is in very short supply.

        I enjoyed you original and your response and wish you only the best in your search for the truth in a difficult and complex time.

      2. Thanks Shawn, I appreciate your encouragement.

        You are right in what you say about the commercialisation and the marketing element with Avicci.
        1 Timothy 6:10 “For the love of money is the root of all evil…”

        The word here for love is philarguria made up of two words

        philos meaning friendly towards or where the city, Philadelphia means Brotherly Love
        arguros meaning silver or shining.

        thus not just a love of money per se, but also fame, honour, position, awards etc. To shine above others. Which is all really the love of self.

        What you are describing referring to deeper meaning is much like an onion skin.
        What is interesting is that when we get to the last layer we find nothing, and that describes our society very well.
        It is empty and vain.

        Jeremiah 10:3 “For the customs of the people are vain…” aka empty.

        John 16:13-15 Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come. 14 He shall glorify me: for he shall receive of mine, and shall shew it unto you. 15 All things that the Father hath are mine: therefore said I, that he shall take of mine, and shall shew it unto you.”

        I am glad you found the blog thought provoking and I hope to continue that same depth of unveiling in future posts.

        Find the one who is the truth and He will lead you into all truth. I pray you find this truth in Christ for all other seeking is without compass in an eternal vacuum of directionless space.

        That is infinitely more important than anything other thing that could be written on this blog.

        Dune Scholar.

      3. Except the symbol used by Avicci is NOT a Buddhist symbol. Also, “Avicci” is Italian. The Buddhist term is Avici – and it does not refer to the 7th layer of Hell as described by Dante’s Inferno, but the deepest part of the Buddhist hell – which is NOT a permanent punishment in their faith.
        “I personally know for a fact that bands in the 60’s for example could not gain any gigs till they signed up as card carrying members of the Communist Party.”
        You do not personally “know” that. You believe a Red Scare conspiracy theory that was debunked IN the 60s & every few years afterward.

        But then, you use jesus-is-savior.com as a “credible” source of information; a site run by David J. Stewart, a proven fraud, liar, and pedophile (admitted, even, with the BS line of “those preteen girls seduced me and being a male I can’t be expected to have any self-control like a responsible adult”!).

        You might as well be getting your info from the Scientology or KKK websites.

      4. I did not say the Avicci symbol was Buddhist but rather the name which the DJ himself admits comes from Buddhism. I have had a number of naysayers comment on this showing they clearly cannot read without their rose coloured glasses on and ignore Tim Berling’s quote.

        Wow very judgmental aren’t you.
        Joining the communist party? I do know that from my own father who admitted a few years ago to me that this was what their band had to do to start getting gigs and that this was the way in many clubs and such in Australia.

        David A Stewart … Do you think I will defend such a man who does such things. None the less the foolish man ignores truth when they see it because of character.
        Even Satan speaks truth for the purpose of deception. If you know the deception one can ascertain the truth in it.
        Is everything on David A Stewart’s website false and a lie?
        Actually what is very concerning to me is that much on his site is not false and a lie, which makes his sins even more heinous.

        Nothing worse than someone who does not practice what they preach or at least is trying to.

        Besides as you will see at the end of the Blog on Avicci I have provided videos that show that we are on the road to accepting such sin and “normal” now the flood gates of “sexual orientation” is now opened.

        Be careful not to justify your sin by looking at a hypocrite.
        People like that are sent to give unbelief a good name.

  4. The video some conspiracy theorists state the start was actually paedophilia, I find this a stretch, a big one, but not a laughable one but more than probably a totally incorrect one * in this particular benign case*. My take on it is it is NOT her literal daughter or child but her self when she was younger as they look quite similar, as does the slightly older women she meets later in the video who could be an older version of her, of course we see a picture with her later in the video with the older women in the same frame which is an apparent discrepancy with that view point but might not necessarily be one, perhaps the artist is telling 2 stories in parallel the story of a young women and her sister moving town from a seemingly “close minded” town (which as the video implies never really got the chance to be open minded with her because she didn’t try to interact with them) and the 18 year old female meets the older young women and falls in love with her (this much is implied) because of the fact that when she meets the older women the part of the song playing is “life is a journey, (then they meet), and “love is the prize”.

    In the second narrative she is really just discovering her self and who she “trully is” (see new age philosophy and the brilliant film Frozen by Disney, the idea that the world will only be good if each person is “true to themselves” this ideology in itself might just be banal and harmless but if taken to extremes can harm others a whole essay could be written on this interesting (to me) topic) thus the love she is discovering is “love of self” (unlike many conservative Christians who are more orthodox on their views I will not say that this ideology is in itself a worrying form of esotericism as in fact it is held by many benign right hand path or “white magic types” and whilst I don’t actually believe magic exists bar acts of spiritual magic that happen ultra rarely and from spiritual sources, not human hands, if i’m wrong on “magic not existing” I fail to see how people who are acting out of compassion and the spirit to create things can possibly be “evil” even if their ways of helping people may be misguided, but in reality I just think they would chant a lot of mantras and achieve nothing.

    On the other hand their are black magic types who do wish to destroy as “out of order comes chaos” even for those who are atheist, this type of sub type of esotericist should be a worry as the belief that the world has to be destroyed morally and literally means our lives atheist, libertarian socialist Christian (like I basically am), or “compassionate conservative alike” are put at great threat by the insane religious belief that by killing us or introducing absurd moral norms such as acceptance of murder, rape and paedophilia they will be able to become “gods”, now you will say “I don’t believe in religion and magic so how can they kill us?” News flash: with bombs, bullets, Ebola and Nukes… that’s how, somehow the unsuccessfulness of their magic hasn’t stopped them wanting to use conventional means to bring about something that they think will finally raise them up to become god’s. Sadly when it happens and they feel no different it will be to late for the rest of us,and will probably just convince the nutters they need to reap more destruction to achieve their “goals”. Now I have no issue with people who want to become GODS via their own efforts if those efforts don’t affect the lives or choices of any one else, if they allow other people to have separate atheist, Christian, or Muslim etc etc beliefs but most of them don’t, even the ones that don’t want to literally kill us all, the collectivist mindset is a problem of dangerous but not remotely as dangerous scale as the mantra of “we need to destroy then rebuild things greater where than they where before” (as if one looks at the twin towers etc it is clear suffering of innocents is part of some esoterics as the top of the tree (such as Rothschild’s or other such elite families version of “destruction”).

    Now you may say I go slightly off topic that is because their is a quite good article by a fairly devout protestant that mentions a lot about the video but I was trying to correct some of the “Fallicies” or “assumptions”/”interpretations” he gives as well as distance myself from his anti catholic comments and anti lesbian comments and some prudishness at times, that said he does give a lot of useful information and is clearly a clever man though sometimes allows himself to let his point of view blinker some interesting insights which are not conducive to winning over people that do not believe in conspiracy theories either because they lazily say “I don’t believe in religion so Satan aint going to hurt me he’s not real (yes but a crazy bunch of wealthy Luciferians NOT santanists (who are quite a different thing, though I am NOT at all convinced their founder was what his members are…) who believe they can become god only by killing the rest of us might….))” or even more absurdly “the illuminati (aka order prefectibilis) where a secular organization of scientists fighting against religion”, yes fighting against religion they where but secular, they where not (and the scientist part where just an outer non important rung that believed they where in a different order than those of the inner rungs who where RELIGIOUS philosophers) if one atheist with an open mind has read Albert Pikes Morals and dogma they will see it is a lie to claim that they were secular as “the masonic temple is a temple of religion” (yes and what is practised in a temple? A religion) or more anecdotally, does the well familiar image of a person covering one eye up or making the heart sign not “look” and “feel” a bit like a religious symbol analogous to how a Christian may make the sign of the cross or carry a cross with crucifix or without depending on sect, or how a Muslim would open their hands in prayer, does the well seen eye with light shining down or pyramid with a light at the near top, not look like a religious symbol to you… be honest now with yourself.

    SO ok I’ve made some of you reconsider your thoughts on if the esoterics grouped together wrongly as “the illuminati” are religious or not but just because they have a different religion from me how does that make them evil? Short answer it doesn’t, worshipping the sun etc, practising white magic etc doesn’t in and of itself make one evil, far from it, misguided maybe but if they do not harm me or others then I have no bone with them, however the lose “coalition” of esoterics has certain sects that have beliefs whose consequences are a threat, as mentioned briefly above some worship lucifer, this is “fine” where it does not lead to justification of murder, genocide and paedophilia (i.e. the ones that believe in the doctrine of lucifer being mans defender and protector (a bizare twist on the bible), quite nuts but doesn’t always go hand in hand with the folk who worship the “other lucifer” eg the dark Lucifer being the destroyer and killer as described in the bible ) but not in the branches of the luciferianism where such horrors are promoted and justified, in the belief it will make them god, note I am well aware of non luciferian branches that also believe in becoming man as a god who believe in doing so without harming others or imposing their views, those branches I have no problem with either, even if I think, unlike white magic, they are probably but not definitely harming themselves spiritually that choice is theirs to make, atheists probably think its all pointless but the consequences of the certain versions of luciferianism is what should concern us, not benign people who want to become “their own god” without forcing the view or saying that 95% of us have to be “culled” to achieve that.

    So if you go back to my 4th paragraph I will now link an article on this video but bear in mind unlike myself the guy confuses “Satanists” with “luciferians” and also fails to distinguish between the 2 types of luciferians, the second darker type being what the very top of the pyramid are in my opinion, and its the consequences of their religious beliefs that I am against, its not “lucifer” that is killing people its man’s own bizare ideology. Now one could argue that lucifer is a force for darkness and man is giving in to their darker desires but one would have to be a Christian or an atheist with a genuine, real interest in theology to understand that point and its quite irrelevant to the fairly neutral tone I take which is designed to try and “awaken” those who have been blinded by false information who seem to think not believing a religion of secrecy “hidden in plain sight” exists or believing in gods or devils will save them from those . Remember I distance myself from such errors this article I link to has, anti Catholicism and anti lesbianism, none the less the guy does give so amazing info but does forget conservatism is a form of materialism, as is marxism… Only libetarian socialism is getting close but not quite the same as “Christian philosophy” (as opposed to the Christian religion), indivdualstic, empathetic connectedness socialism is the true thing but that is hard to write…

    It differs from individualism in that compassion is shown for the week or poor, differs from “conformism” in that if the rights of one individual is harmed so is the rights of all of us… Finally I will probably do my own review of the video but wrote in more neutral and concise language than the guy used as the task is to awaken the intellect of those who mass media and society has dulled and then show them how their meaningless phrases are not true and do not save them from impending material and spiritual doom (for atheists think of spiritualness as “how happy and clean your life feels (this does not mean that you only sleep with people u love etc, it means you treat people fairly and respect the life of animals and people etc you try to be a “nice” person))


    Interesting random question, Is Bill O’Reily a mason or just a very smart person who has twigged their is something going on but he only prys the door open slightly so as to avoid suspiscion etc? I say this because sometimes he comes across as open minded and persuasive guy who has twigged you need to use a different language to convince the atheists on some points or find common ground yet other times he comes across as an ultra right winger as narrow minded as any marxist. As a leftist I do not agree with him but I am intrigued by what his true “story” is. Maybe he is a mason working against the elite masons and dangerous forms of esotericisim as best he can… The whole thing is very interesting and as I tried to convey esotericisim is probably not one current and they do not pull in the same directions, thank god/the universe but sadly the ones pulling the most weight tend to pull in the one direction, a direction that bares dread for the rest of us… Conservatives don’t see the materialistic esotercism in their own creed, neither do a lot but not all leftists conspiracy theorists see the religious component in the bankers and elite families nor the fact marxisim, as the philosophy not the utopian ideas they have of it, is not egalitarian or about empowering the people but was created by esoterics with the goal of destruction and putting power in the hands of a few. Me I’m all about empowering the poor, redistributing wealth but don’t dare say im marxist a utopian (aka fake marxisit/true egalitarian, like many so called marixsts like me are (by our enemies and sometimes people use wrongly the term “marxist” on themselves…)Marxist maybe but not a philosophical one…..

  5. Thank you very much for taking the time to write this, I appreciate! A few ears back I was infatuated with the alien conspiracy. I’d read Corso’s book on area 51 and much believed it was all a great conspiracy. I was born a catholic, but the religion turned me away, sit, stand, kneel etc. Thought I had it pretty sorted, didn’t need all that stuff.
    Still never really deep down gave up on God, there were times I called on God, like demonic visitations… Scary scary stuff!
    So I was converted to the ufo faith, but still wasn’t convinced.
    I did some reading, Tom Horn’s book 2012 apolyon rising discredited all I thought I knew about the ufo’s. The symbolism of the great seal, the sacrifice and the binding of a demon through the 2 pillars into the new world order, the masons, all their dates etc.
    Also a good read was Nic Redferns ‘the collins elite’. They believe the ufo phenomenom is more demonic than a physical manifestation, think incubus and succubus repackaged for a new generation!
    Pretty much broughtme back to my faith, see everything in a new light now, easier to seperate truth from fiction.
    I have a question I’m struggling with.
    There were giants on the earth… and also after the flood.
    I am of the belief of the fallen angels interacting with woman, and the resulting nephilim, although (apparently) the fallen angels were cast into the abyss, chains etc until judgement, their prodigy survived. That was what the flood was about, not so much mans wickedness, but satans plan to corrupt the dna?
    But if all life on earth was destroyed how come there were nephilim after the flood??
    There is modern evidence of Nephilim, elongated skulls, 6 digits, 2 rows of teeth…
    Read an interesting story recently about some geologists drilling in siberia, they drilled down so far and came to a void in the earth. With their listening devices they could hear moaning and chains bein dragged.
    Anyway I digress, Thanks a lot,

    1. Thank you Stephen. Appreciated.
      I noted that you say you never gave up on God… could I propose that maybe God hasn’t given up on you. A far more comforting thought.

      We really have no strength to desire Him.

      Romans 3:10-11 As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one: 11 There is none that understandeth, there is none that seeketh after God.

      Equally no one can receive or accept Jesus

      John 3:27 John answered and said, A man can receive nothing, except it be given him from heaven.

      So your desire for God comes from above. if you have it, God put it there.
      That is very comforting, because God is far stronger than we are, more true to his promise to complete the good work in us then we are.
      On Him we can depend.

      I completely comprehend what you speak of regarding visitations. Fallen angels are real and can appear in many forms.

      I read a book a few years ago (Alien Intrusion by Gary Bates) that made me rejoice in that it verified with scientific data that the Name of Jesus made alien abductions stop and referred me to this guys research. I said “There’s statistics for this!!” Woo Hoo.
      He was a MUFON investigator and was not a Christian until he saw these facts coming up .



      You mention you are struggling with Giants on the Earth after the flood. (Well not literally I hope lol)

      Can I suggest that you examine the Hebrew of the word for Nephilim nephiyl.
      What is important with understanding the Greek or Hebrew is you need to break the word down to it’s root form.

      A good book by Dr Cathy Burns Nephilim, Fallen angels and Aliens.
      Someone has put this up on youtube as a series of which this is the first if you cannot obtain the book.

      To put the naysayers of spiritual things in perspective I have had my own encounters. I will in time put them up on my blog but only when I can put them in service of God and not mere curiosity in the encounters themselves.

      The fact that the interpretation of the Nephilim being the offspring of fallen angels creates a contradiction as you have found should sound alarm bells that something is wrong.
      I think that is happening for you. This is because 99% of the time we are interpreting the scriptures wrong. If we believe the word of God is inerrent then we must find remedy for the contradiction which is caused by our own frail misunderstanding.

      Much of the origination of this idea for the Nephilim derives from Jewish superstitions and fables.
      See 1 Timothy 1:4, 4:7; 2 Timothy 4:4; Titus 1:14; 2 Peter 1:16.

      Be extremely careful of Tom Horn, try not to stray from the scriptures for establishing answers, then build from there.

      Dr Cathy Burns does address some issues in his book Apollyon Rising


      If you read the text the Nephilim are not interacting with the women, a misconception based upon a false reading. The text says

      Genesis 6:1-5 And it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born unto them, 2 That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose. 3 And the LORD said, My spirit shall not always strive with man, for that he also is flesh: yet his days shall be an hundred and twenty years. 4 There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown. 5 And GOD saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually.

      If you examine scripture the sons of God are the righteous line from Seth compared to the line of Cain.

      They were marrying and giving in marriage (much like Solomon who was corrupted because the women he married served other gods) this is an idiom meaning to marry a truth to a lie.

      Matthew 24:38-39 38 For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark, 39 And knew not until the flood came, and took them all away; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.

      Note well that if you have believed on Christ Jesus and repented of your sins you are His child and a son of God.

      John 1:11-12 11 He came unto his own, and his own received him not. 12 But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:

      Simply believers married unbelievers and were unequally yoked

      2 Corinthians 6:14-18 14 Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness? 15 And what concord hath Christ with Belial? or what part hath he that believeth with an infidel? 16 And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? for ye are the temple of the living God; as God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in them; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people. 17 Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you, 18 And will be a Father unto you, and ye shall be my sons and daughters, saith the Lord Almighty.

      The word Nephilim is the word Giant in the text. The scripture does not say the daughters of men gave birth to giants, it says mighty men which is the Hebrew word gibbor, mighty strong.
      There is much in this text to understand and many are confused by it.
      I think this determines this topic as a blog I should take up to explain this whole chapter in Genesis.

      I too have heard the story about Russian geologists drilling and hearing screams etc, no proof though has followed and must be pigeon holed as conjecture till later evidence comes forth.

      Try to focus upon understanding the scriptures and try to steer away from these “mysteries” and “legends” as interesting and enticing they are.
      I should know I spent much time of issues of conspiracy, ancient tech, anomalous archaeology etc myself and it was hard to back away and do what God wanted from me.
      I love these topics, but they also left me distressed and not at peace, knowledge that can never be resolved, open ended issues.
      Ever learning and never coming to the knowledge of the truth. 2 Timothy 3:7

      God wants to deal with our hearts as the heart of man is more wicked than ALL OTHER THINGS.

      Jeremiah 17:9 The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it?

      So the issue God wants to focus upon is being right before Him, and that is not an easy thing to deal with as He will deal with our pet lusts, sins and things we do not even consider wrong.

      He wants us Holy as He is Holy.

      Seek Christ and you may find these other matters may be resolved in the process, and find peace for your soul.

      Thank you so much for your question.

      Dunce Scholar

      1. Thank you for your reply, I’ve subscribed to ‘Beginning and End’, they answer in depth the debate about noah and the nephilim, while it’s always going to be speculation, and there are varying interpretations, I found it enlightening. The comments and different perspectives especially. They ran the gamut from Mormon teachings to Talmud scriptures. It’s a good thing I can pick the truth out of these opinions now.
        I’ve already been recommended the Cathy Burns series (is there another dunce scholar?), and shall watch. But I’m pretty satisfied witht the answer, it’s a mystery…Any answer is speculation.
        I’ll be eternally grateful for Tom Horn, reading his work pointed me back in the right direction, as with anything, you only believe what you want to believe and discount the rest.
        I have some other questions which are becoming imperative…
        What is sin?
        I understand the origin of sin, Adam defying God.
        In that scenario why must all generations pay for his sins? Does that seem fair? Am I missing something here?
        And what about original sin, that we are all born into sin, and iniquity whatever that is, (and what is emnity?)
        As I understood it, the original sin is shame, self awareness of our nakedness.
        But why is a innocent child born of sin? Is this referring to sexual union?
        I really struggle with that whole scenario. Are my children, who are not baptises, but lead good moral lives, condemned to eternity for something they have not done??
        This is why I have turned away from religion, and am reluctant to return, I don’t see piety in higher regard than living a moral life.
        I understand choice etc, good and evil, but we were made this way, with a functioning endocrine system, we have glands, hormones etc for a reason.
        I see an analogy, being given a car which will do 100mph, but being told to only do 50mph…
        Within reason, I believe it’s actually unholy to deny our instincts.
        We are made with animal instincts, to go forth and reproduce, why are there limitations placed on this? what is the origins of the sin of lust?
        I find I am naturally attracted to members of the opposite sex, I try not to lust after them, to continue my imagination beyond appreciating the natural beauty God has created, but I feel I am denying an instinct, that I am created with.
        What is Gods word on this subject, vs mans interpretation.
        Does this relate somehow back to the fall of the angels and their interaction with woman.
        I’d like to know more about marraige as it is understood biblically.
        Adam and Eve were ‘married’ in the sight of God who formed their union.
        What about having wives, wives and concubines, and serving girls, or hand maids.
        Seems the old testament has a more liberal interpretation of populating the world.
        Have I missed something here?
        Apologies for such a scatergun approach to these questions, it’s how I think, I don’t know the answer to pose the question, so can only express myself as best I can.
        I have other scenario’s as well I’m seeking answers for, but guess I need to ask, then wait for the way to be shown me, eg prayer…
        I’m kinda jealous, and somewhat dubious about people who claim Christ or Jesus to themselves, who ‘know Christ” on a personal basis, kinda skeptical this is all self talk?
        I believe people confuse God with a wishing well.
        I have problems in my life, I ask for strngth to help me overcome them, to purge any negativity I may have incurred, but I do not ask for a Mercedes Benz.
        Is this real, these people walking with God, having conversations with Jesus?
        My sister is in a new age religion and praises God, walks and talks with Jesus, but her life is a mess.
        My thinking is people use Jesus as a drug, not prepared to make changes in their lives and use God as a panacea.
        My faith is something I keep to myself, I will argue any salient points with anybody but I do not promote it to others.
        Am I really missing out on something here, not feeling the love like I’m supposed I should?
        Do I need to repent? sack cloth and ashes? Am I not worthy, as I’m obviously a sinner (as is all mankind for some reason…)
        I’m just speculating here, I do not exect to find God anywhere but within, on terms I can relate to, personalised if you will…
        Thanks for taking the time to read all this, it’s taken me a long time to put all this together in my mind!

      2. I’ve purchased 4 books today, jubilees and 3 by cathy burns, the one you mentioned, I don’t have time to be sitting through you tubes, specially a commentary with no video, but I start a new job next week and will have ‘train reading time’… Also purchased a book by same author re Billy Graham, just out of interest, and a book about masonic symbolism.
        I believe also,this job was a gift, I asked for it and it was granted.
        Stephen (Lawrence).

      3. Hi Stephen

        I have never come across Beginning and End. I will check them out.

        Getting a good range of views on difficult issues and passages of the Bible, history, culture is always good, I have personally found though that by allowing scripture to interpret scripture, you are on a sure fire winner and it helps to avoid “opinion”.

        2 Peter 1:20-21

        Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation. 21 For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost.

        The Old Testament interprets the New. So if you want to understand the Book of Revelation you will find the symbols and terms used in the Old Testament.

        It is good to understand the various beliefs out there. you will find they ALL have a common denominator in them.

        1. Your good works save you.
        2. You can become divine.

        I was quite surprised that even the Roman Catholic Church went as far to teach that we can become like god through it’s pre-eminent theologian St Thomas Aquinas.

        Cathy Burns’ books are very informative. The one on Billy Graham is quite an eye opener to how decieved the whole church has been during the 20th Century. He is not what Christianity makes out he is, but then neither was C S Lewis but that’s another story.
        Billy is a 33 degree Freemason.

        ?Is there another Dunce Scholar? I am not sure what you mean. As far as I know there is only one of me, or is the question “is there other books by Cathy Burns”.
        Yes there are. I have one on Mormonism by her. Very interesting fact that Mormo is evil entity in Anton La veys Satanic Bible, and as you would know Joseph Smith was a witch and 33 degree Freemason and in close association with the Jesuits.

        Cathy Burns books I have found are listed here

        Cathy Burns Books

        You are very right about the speculation on this issue of the Nephilim and others too, interesting to investigate but remaining on the Word leaves us on sure ground.

        You ask “What is Sin?”

        The Biblical answer is found in 1 John 3:4

        “Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the Law.”

        So any breaking of the law as we are informed in James 2:10 says

        “For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all.”

        So as the Apostle Paul writes in Romans 3:23-25

        “For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God; 24 Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus: 25 Whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God;”

        Yet in the midst of that we see there is Good News. The price of our sin has been paid for by His Son Jesus Christ. God knowing we are incapable of making a single contribution to the penalty of even one sin let alone more.

        God knew when he made man that he would fail in the commandment he gave him

        Genesis 2:16-17

        “And the LORD God commanded the man, saying, Of every tree of the garden thou mayest freely eat: 17 But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.”

        God does not say IF you eat of the tree, but rather, for in the day that you eat of the tree.
        This brings us to the amazing subject of predestination. This is one of the “unfathomable” things about the mind of God.

        Romans 8:28-33

        “And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to his purpose. 29 For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren. 30 Moreover whom he did predestinate, them he also called: and whom he called, them he also justified: and whom he justified, them he also glorified. 31 What shall we then say to these things? If God be for us, who can be against us? 32 He that spared not his own Son, but delivered him up for us all, how shall he not with him also freely give us all things? 33 Who shall lay any thing to the charge of God’s elect? It is God that justifieth.”


        Ephesians 1:3-9

        “Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who hath blessed us with all spiritual blessings in heavenly places in Christ: 4 According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love: 5 Having predestinated us unto the adoption of children by Jesus Christ to himself, according to the good pleasure of his will, 6 To the praise of the glory of his grace, wherein he hath made us accepted in the beloved. 7 In whom we have redemption through his blood, the forgiveness of sins, according to the riches of his grace; 8 Wherein he hath abounded toward us in all wisdom and prudence; 9 Having made known unto us the mystery of his will, according to his good pleasure which he hath purposed in himself:”

        Why did God do this?

        He has set this world and their whole universe to make us come to the understanding that He must be pre-eminent in all matters.
        You will find that if you find false teaching it is this very fact it always finally undermines.

        The whole world including us are in sin, transgressing the law and under the condemnation and judgement of God, but He predetermined at a specific time and place in our lives to believe in Him and repent. Notice back in Romans 8:29 that it is not an excuse for continuing on in sin because God will be conforming us to the likeness of His Son. Thus we should find as we live in Christ and His Word that the lusts of the flesh shall be torn away. Sometimes quickly, sometimes over a long time. The issue is there will be growth in spiritual things and fleshly things will fall away.
        That is why we find rest in Christ. He is our Sabbath our rest.
        He will do a work in us.

        I have personally grown then rebelled going in my own way, God punished me for this, and my sin has caused me great torment and anguish, but it also brought me to my knees and made me fear and love God. God in His great wisdom used me against me, and now as I get older I hate my sin more and more and I am tired of it.

        Now Jesus Christ died for the sins of His elect. Those he chose out before the beginning.

        Even Jesus Christ’s death was prearranged before Adams creation let alone his fall

        Revelation 13:4-8

        “And they worshipped the dragon which gave power unto the beast: and they worshipped the beast, saying, Who is like unto the beast? who is able to make war with him? 5 And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months. 6 And he opened his mouth in blasphemy against God, to blaspheme his name, and his tabernacle, and them that dwell in heaven. 7 And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations. 8 And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.”

        Jesus Christ is the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.
        He was slain for those who are called.

        There were many trees to eat of only one tree was forbidden. Do this to a child in your house and the child wants what it has been told it can’t have.
        It is in man’s nature. We were made out of the dust of the earth.

        Original sin is not true. Original Sin refuted

        Original Sin refuted again

        That is a Roman Catholic doctrine but the scriptures do not teach it.
        It is also not the sexual act as this is ordained from God as being holy.

        Hebrews 13:4

        “Marriage is honourable in all, and the bed undefiled: but whoremongers and adulterers God will judge.”

        If you remember sin is the transgression of the law. Thus you have to have an understanding of the law to be able to transgress it.
        A baby cannot transgress the law, it has no understanding.
        This though is different to a child of say 8 who does have an understanding of right and wrong, they can transgress.

        But if a child is chosen of God He will preserve / keep him or her through till the time of belief.
        God will loose none whom he chooses for His own good pleasure.
        We did nothing to be chosen, He chooses because it pleases Him to do so. That is grace – undeserved favour, whilst mercy is not getting what you deserve.

        You might find this strange because grace in the Roman Catholic Church is something you can earn.
        This goes against the meaning and even the Apostle Paul shows the meaning in Romans 11:2-6

        “God hath not cast away his people which he foreknew. Wot ye not what the scripture saith of Elias? how he maketh intercession to God against Israel, saying, 3 Lord, they have killed thy prophets, and digged down thine altars; and I am left alone, and they seek my life. 4 But what saith the answer of God unto him? I have reserved to myself seven thousand men, who have not bowed the knee to the image of Baal. 5 Even so then at this present time also there is a remnant according to the election of grace. 6 And if by grace, then is it no more of works: otherwise grace is no more grace. But if it be of works, then is it no more grace: otherwise work is no more work.”

        Grace then is not work.

        Ephesians 2:8-10

        “For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: 9 Not of works, lest any man should boast. 10 For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them.”

        Only after obtaining grace (because God wanted to give you grace for His good pleasure) do you then go on to do the work of God which is Gods will not our own works which He planned for you from the beginning of time.

        This is really deep and heavy stuff but I really detest ministers who give half baked answers (most probably because they themselves do not really know the answer anyhow). People who ask a question deserve an answer if they are willing to hear.

        God does not charge children with their parents sin. That would be a very unjust God. God is not unjust. Each person is judged for their own sin.

        This though is very different to sinning in front of ones own children with say a habit of smoking, or getting drunk, swearing or your kids noticing your eyes drifting to girls with short skirts behind their Mums back etc.
        Our sin does not only impact us?
        Our sins teach our kids that we are hypocrites, may turn them from God, may turn them to drugs, alcohol, sleeping around with many women and catching AIDS or becoming a Child Support slave for 20 years to a woman from a one night stand.

        The consequences of sin impact those around you.

        That is what goes on for 3-4 generations God does not punish them for your sin, but we can directly corrupt them by our sinning and plant seeds of corruption in them which can give them the propensity to sin themselves.

        Your children are not baptised. Well fear not. Baptism does not save you. Salvation is only two things “repent and believe on the Jesus Christ”.

        Acts 15:5-11

        “But there rose up certain of the sect of the Pharisees which believed, saying, That it was needful to circumcise them, and to command them to keep the law of Moses. 6 And the apostles and elders came together for to consider of this matter. 7 And when there had been much disputing, Peter rose up, and said unto them, Men and brethren, ye know how that a good while ago God made choice among us, that the Gentiles by my mouth should hear the word of the gospel, and believe. 8 And God, which knoweth the hearts, bare them witness, giving them the Holy Ghost, even as he did unto us; 9 And put no difference between us and them, purifying their hearts by faith. 10 Now therefore why tempt ye God, to put a yoke upon the neck of the disciples, which neither our fathers nor we were able to bear? 11 But we believe that through the grace of the Lord Jesus Christ we shall be saved, even as they.”

        Notice the Pharisees were creeping into the Church adding rules when salvation is simple… repent and believe

        Mark 1:15

        “And saying, The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand: repent ye, and believe the gospel.”

        Salvation is simple, but for a prideful people it is hard and that is why men make religion. So they can play a part in their salvation. God hates that.

        So you comment “I don’t see piety in higher regard than living a moral life.”

        It isn’t if it is in the hands of a hypocrite.

        Many people live a moral life and some even appear pious but they are as far away from God as the East is to the West. Morality is good but it does not redeem us. Only Christ’s blood redeems and nothing we do can help or add to the payment He made. He, being God, His payment was of infinite worth, and there is no need of any more sacrifices (aka the Mass)

        What is the difference between a Humanist helping someone and believer in Christ helping someone?


        Proverbs 21:3-4

        “To do justice and judgment is more acceptable to the LORD than sacrifice. 4 An high look, and a proud heart, and the plowing of the wicked, is sin.”

        Firstly many who do pious deeds do so for their own self benefit. It is a selfish act done in the name of God.

        Why though would even a simple thing like plowing be sin?

        Hebrews 11:6

        “But without faith it is impossible to please him: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him.”

        Romans 14:23

        “… For whatsoever is not of faith is sin.”

        Romans 3:28

        “Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith without the deeds of the law.”

        Man’s religion puts the cart before the horse, because man desires self to have glory or have a part in it.
        That is why all religions except that which is true claim that all mankind have the divine spark within.
        That is Gnostic teaching and is antithetical to the teaching of Christ and Scripture.

        Jesus taught a pertinent lesson for us to take heed to in Matthew 16:25-26

        “For whosoever will save his life shall lose it: and whosoever will lose his life for my sake shall find it. 26 For what is a man profited, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul? or what shall a man give in exchange for his soul?”

        The issue here is that it is for “my sake” that is the sake of the Son of God.
        The question one needs to be sure to ask is, “Is following mans religion, even if it uses the name of Christ doing it for His sake or the sake of another?”

        Do all things in the name of Christ The true Christ / Messiah.
        There are plenty of Jesus’ around, the Bible calls them “another Jesus”.
        These other Jesus’ are only deceptive because they parallel the truth. They are so close to it only one well trained can tell. Like a bank determining a counterfeit note with the real.

        That is why we need to know the Word of God well.

        Hebrews 4:12

        “For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.”

        Man’s nature is corrupt. One famous atheist I read recently made the clear admission that he knows of no Atheist organisations that feed the hungry, clothe the naked and house the homeless etc.
        This same lack of care can be seen in many of the worlds religions until recently where they have adopted the Christian ideal of Charity.

        Isaiah 64:6-7

        “But we are all as an unclean thing, and all our righteousnesses are as filthy rags; and we all do fade as a leaf; and our iniquities, like the wind, have taken us away. 7 And there is none that calleth upon thy name, that stirreth up himself to take hold of thee: for thou hast hid thy face from us, and hast consumed us, because of our iniquities.”

        Hebrews 10:10-12

        “By the which will we are sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all. 11 And every priest standeth daily ministering and offering oftentimes the same sacrifices, which can never take away sins: 12 But this man, after he had offered one sacrifice for sins for ever, sat down on the right hand of God;

        Can I advise listening to a guy called Jim Brown. he deals well with the issue of Baptism and Predestination well though expect to be inundated with an over-abundance of knowledge, and he is not about pantering to peoples whims and watering down his words.

        He was a Baptist preacher thus was fully sold on “water baptism” but now understands that baptism is not water but blood.

        Grace and truth

        Matthew 20:23

        “And he saith unto them, Ye shall drink indeed of my cup, and be baptized with the baptism that I am baptized with:

        Jesus’s Baptism was a blood Baptism and a taking up of the cross.

        Matthew 16:24

        “Then said Jesus unto his disciples, If any man will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross, and follow me.”

        Following Jesus leads to the death of the fleshly lusts and desires and instead desiring Gods will.
        And Following Jesus means speaking the truth and people will hate that so much some may kill us for it one day.
        Try and speak truth in a Muslim country, we may find that in the west very soon too.

        Do not return to religion, come to Christ. Religion places man’s burdens on us, Christ came to take our burdens.

        Matthew 11:28-30

        “Come unto me, all ye that labour and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest. 29 Take my yoke upon you, and learn of me; for I am meek and lowly in heart: and ye shall find rest unto your souls. 30 For my yoke is easy, and my burden is light.”

        Jesus specifically came to challenge the Jews of His day. The Pharisees were practising the Halaka, the TRADITIONARY law of Moses.
        This was not the law of Moses and Jesus kept breaking their traditions without breaking the Mosaic law or the Law of God, that is why they wanted to kill Him.
        Does the Church have “tradition”? It has done the same as the religious leaders in Jesus’ time.
        The Roman Catholic Church has 3 authorities The Bible, Tradition and the Magisterium. The last two cancel out the Bible. That is no different to the Jews in Jesus’ time who cancelled out the Mosiac Law by their traditions.

        You can follow Christ without following a religion.

        Such am example of a burden is one which I hear loud and clear coming from you over normal natural desires. I truly hear your cry here.

        It is not unholy to deny the desires God put in us. He made us to enjoy life. It just needs to be within the boundaries God has prescribed.

        If you find a good wife, God has given her for your enjoyment and happiness and visa versa.

        Man’s Religion binds, God’s religion sets the captives free from man’s religion.

        Luke 4:18

        “The Spirit of the Lord is upon me, because he hath anointed me to preach the gospel to the poor; he hath sent me to heal the brokenhearted, to preach deliverance to the captives, and recovering of sight to the blind, to set at liberty them that are bruised,”

        You sound to me like you are bruised. Christ comes to bring you liberty.(The car that was built to do 100mph can do 100mph when on the freeway, but if around a school when kids are coming out, 100mph will kill someone.)

        Look how the early church chose not to place man made burdens upon the new Gentile (not Jewish) Christians

        Acts 15:28-29

        For it seemed good to the Holy Ghost, and to us, to lay upon you no greater burden than these necessary things; 29 That ye abstain from meats offered to idols, and from blood, and from things strangled, and from fornication: from which if ye keep yourselves, ye shall do well. Fare ye well.

        If you read a few verses before this we find the Apostles are discussing the issue of circumcision and how they should not put this burden on the Gentiles.
        (Circumcision is now of the heart not the flesh.)

        You are so on the money, you are asking the right questions. I think it was Plato who said in arguing with Aristotle that you get the right answer when you ask the right questions.
        The trick is you cannot ask the right question until you already know the answer.
        God must be leading you in your questioning.

        Keep trusting in Him and not man.

        God Bless you in your walk in His light.

        Dunce Scholar

      4. Thank you for your reply, that was awesome and inspiring. I asked a similar question of Beginning and End, and was shot down, my questions, and some deep revelations of my past, the bruising… They did not really adress my question so much as direct the reply in a way, almost patronising, but as if the answer were to protect other, presumably younger readers from my direct questioning. My feeling was He was protecting his religion.
        Dunce Scholar as Commonwealth of Australia, Sue myers page?
        I’m getting closer to a truth that I can live with, without, as pointed out, making myself above God.
        I spent a rainy weekend watching Trey Smith video’s, really the most in depth analysis of Noah, and the Nephilim. I read so much contradictory renditions of the same element I have to put my faith somewhere I beleive. I find Him credible and holy, only comments on fact and leaves the surmising alone.
        An interesting point from his series; when Adam and Eve were naked, he killed an innocent, presumably lamb to clothe them! That explains in my mind so much!
        I do think man has got it so wrong about Gods intentions for us in our flesh bodies.
        There are a myriad of interpretations, and I felt scorned, some passage from corinthians being thrown back at me, you can interpret and make the bible say anything. It is man who has interpreted the original script, and subtly changed words.
        I’m astounded at Gods work, and the more I see of it and the more I understand, the more I am humbled, I pray, and give glory when I am in my garden, or out in nature.
        I have abanoned the church 4 decades back, just could not reconcile their truth with my own feelings. Unfortunately in that decision I dumped all the bible teachings. If one part is not credible, then the rest is doubtful too.
        Fortunately I have aways led a protected life, I have been blessed.
        So I feel better in my decision to disregard Christianity as presented by religion. I will live my life on my own terms, knowing in joy I am doing the right thing. I am not putting myself above God, or considering myself ‘as a god’, as I’ve recently been told. This just confirms to my innermost core that I am right.
        I have discussions with my sister, she’s black and blue also from her formative experiences, she belongs to a new age diocese and rejects most of catholicism, without worshiping false gods…
        My mother was a devout Christian, she had visitations of a holy nature (enveloped in love, not satanic delusions) and converted from CofE to Catholic.
        My father I’m not sure about, he dies when I was 6.
        I do know there were several outstanding ‘x files moments’, when he was dying his bed was levitating as he was holding on awaiting my mother!
        My father had a tumultuous time in his sickness, he believed he was a pig and was being led to the slaughter! Easy to pass that off as he had brain cancer, however my aunt was quietly asking me about it, as my uncle, my fathers brother, who also died young, had the exact same ‘apparition’.
        After my father passed, there was an ‘incident’ at home with my mother, an ‘apparition’ which manifested as a black vortex.
        She approached the parish priest, and he made some insinuation to the effect ‘is it back again,!
        I wish I knew more about this, as t is something that has plagued me also. I have had some truly frightening experiences which have frozen me to the core.
        I’ve had numerous encounters with spirits, usually awakening and recalling the contact.
        Usually specific to a location…
        I believe it is fear that is the key, negative ‘entities’ thrive on fear.
        I believe also that in order for the name of God, or Jesus to be effective, you must truly believe in your heart the truth of The Lord. At the time of these encounters I was plagued with doubts and fear, My God to me was counfounded in Guilt and shame for being a sinner, or so I was told…
        hat is a step back from Grace.
        I believe it is rejecting Gods love for the way He made us in flesh, and is a sin of itself!
        I agree there are pitfalls for the human condition, Man and woman should be partnered, but not for the sake of some distant goal in the next life. And man and woman should be faithful to their bond. There are repurcussions for the lack of this, as we can see, all over this earth, children raised in conflict and often neglect. This is how wea re raising future generations, by satanic influence, if not design perhaps?
        Also physical lust is more than simply appreciating Gods design in the fairer sex, which we are biologically programmed to do, by design, not by accident.
        However I believe this must have boundaries, for this life and again, not for the next.
        Moderation and discipline are things you learn as you mature, but to tell a hormonal teenager that they are sinning and the answer is to pray is, as was my case, simply pushing people away from faith; which is usually accessed via religion. Therefore distancing them from God…
        That I see as sinful.
        Back to lust, it is, I believe, how far you let your imagination rule you. I observed several attractive women already today, some would say I have sinned. But I do not allow my imagination to get the etter of Me, i’m happy with this. and I do pull myself up if I find my mind roaming, or fantasising, that’s how I see lust.
        The danger of that in this world is it creates barriers to Love, to love a stranger as Gods creation, and not a posession, or a tool to ‘own’, and has repurcussions on our own mental wel being. We begin to live a dark fantasy world where We, our our percieved needs are the centre and others are merely objects for us to attain our objective. This is deeply damaging to the soul.
        I see it in my younger brother, he’s so caught up in the physical, he has no respect for others, which is ultimately damaging for his psyche. God may be teaching him a lesson which he must accept i his own time, as we all must.
        The article on sin i responded to, was also quickly redirected to physical lust, no mention of other sins which plague us today, Greed, vanity, which I believe are intertwined with lust.
        If you get time check out Trey Smith, he interprets scriptures from the original manuscript,and is not afraid to interpret them alongside what we would consider heretic manuscripts.
        Another thing which I have found totally discounted in other forums.
        Not to say I believe them as truth, but they may be read for what they are.
        He has an interesting take on the return of theNephilim, a ‘portal’ was opened in the 2nd generation from Noah, which may coincide with what I’ve read ( and there is so much information from different sources), that One of Noahs sons, the bad one who saw his fathers nakedness, also found some text on a wall and seemingly, or perhaps used this information to his own needs? Certainly not sharng his find with his father Noah.
        Now I wish somebody would make a Noah movie accurately depicting events…
        I have ordered those books already, and have picked up an old bok, by Nick Redfern, the only one worth reading from this author, Pentagons and Pyramids, top secret cia stuff about Noahs ark, apparently a metallic wing also found on Ararat… And the Collins elite, who state ufo’s are dimensional, satanic as in incubus and succubus, not terrestrial.
        So many wild theories, but at least he’s on the right track.
        I enjoyed Tom Horns work, especially about the masons and how they have set up america, even the true meaning of the name america is an incan diety… I wish I could find credible authors to understand what is happening in modern times with the 33’s etc, Wherever they are involved, you just know there is evil at work.
        Thanks again, must get off my butt, My ministry isphysical, not to be found in a recling position.
        Regards Stephen

  6. Hi Y’all, seems like I got this space to myself? I bought Cathy Burns book, thinking it would be something of a revelation… So disappointed, didn’t even finish it, couldn’t, each page had me screaming the obvious. She interprets quotes from various other scholars and aligns them with her own interpretation of the bible. She doesn’t think outside the square at all, totally discounts anything which is not in the modern bible.
    I am thankful tough, it has sent me on a new quest, to discover how many of the bible truths are relevant, ie how many chapters and themes have hit the cutting room floor by various interested parties over the years.
    Followed an interesting discussion on satan’s seed, dunno about that, but will read on as it had several themes which related well to other authors, the origins of the planet etc.
    I find just looking to the bible for answers gets you nowhere, there are many creation epics for example, with many similarities.
    The bit which has stuck in my mind is that Adam and Eve were not physical until they sinned, then were cast from the garden to earth as physical. Also simple things in genesis, seperating light from darkness etc, have only 1 line, but to say day and night is redundant really, God created the earth etc, don’t need to say day and night, light and dark meant the seperation of good and evil, the first fall of lucifer, which predated the fallen angels.
    I stick to christian authors, not veering into ufo country, but I see ufo country and evidence of prehistoric technology which preceeded mankind, as much the same.
    So many different themes around, Nephilim, ufo’s, annunaki, gospel, niburu, nwo etc, hard to find credible authors who are willing to address many of these together.
    Link to the channel I have been following, I listened in to a 4 hour radio stream while I was doing some homework, fascinating, so many things made sense. And Cathy Burns, I bought 2 other books at the same time, returned them to amazon, unread. Lost credibility, if all you can do is attack others and add nothing yourself…

  7. Hi Dunce. Peace to you in Jesus’ name, the soon returning King! Keep up the good work. God has led me to similar conclusions on much of what you have written about in various articles, but through other paths. He knows all…a shame that people want a short-cut to Him because there is no such thing. Perhaps best to point them to Jesus and His scriptures under the Holy Spirit’s guidance…He is able to instruct in ways we cannot.

    1. Thanks Rob.
      Totally agree. After decades of looking for answers to undoing the tyranny of this world. Politics, economics, revolution, religions, philosophy, law, science as a utopia etc etc, the only thing that we can do that does not play into the control mechanism of this universe (of which the very ultimate mechanism is sin) is the recognising the pre-eminence of God in all things and doing what He said “Preach the Gospel”.
      If there is only one thing that can overthrow evil and the corruption of mans hearts, it is this which liberates man to willingly sacrifice self for the glory of God and as a result the betterment of mankind.
      It is only when men’s hearts are changed to reject the chains of sin which they embrace yet which bind them.
      That is when a people are strong and and are unconquerable for they will not yield to temptations.

      1. Well, the time quickly approaches when men preaching and teaching in the Spirit of Elijah all over this world will lose their heads for so doing…not that it hasn’t been happening since John the Baptist came anyhow but the times of the gentiles are reaching their conclusion and the time of the Kingdom’s restoration approaches. Yeshua is coming again and it will be the shadow of Exodus 19 fulfilled in reality. Be ready ‘against the third day’ and remember Peter’s words in his epistle…”be not ignorant of this one thing…”

        I do not know about you and yours, but we here (Americans escaped to NZ) have ditched our t.v. set and seldom watch any movies; most of our ‘religious’ books and fiction have gone out to the recycling bin; our CD collection gets smaller and smaller (down to mainly Sons of Korah so we learn the Psalms which provide much comfort and strength), thus giving more time for people and His Word. With our obedience to be discerning and self-controlled, He has rewarded us with more understanding AND fellowship; and we are grateful.

  8. LOL wow how much time did you waste on this utter BS?
    Personally I think we’re all just cattle put here by aliens to be eaten when dead, harvested by the alien agents called morticians.
    LOL No less far fetched than your sky pixie beliefs I’m afraid.

    1. Psalm 50:10 10 For every beast of the forest is mine, and the cattle upon a thousand hills.

      Bon Appitite.

      BTW A pixie is another name for demon (aka fairae, genie, etc) which in the ancient world was an ancestor who led you to you fortune.
      That might be the same as the preaching of the health and wealth “gospel” deceivers who say God gives you what you want, name it and claim it, but it is not the God of the Bible which makes the true God not a sky pixie. He doesn’t lead you to your fortune!!
      Instead he gives you what you need including a beating if you refuse to learn His ways.
      God’s love is not “nice”. He is not called “the Rock” for no reason, but he is also compassionate for those who are humbled.
      Maybe you need to find out first hand what your talking about instead of taking what you know from the media who are compulsive liars.(Any preacher who is on TV must be lying about something to hold an audience.)
      But then Matthew 7:6 is probably the reality here. I hope it is not for your sake.

  9. Sky Pixies makes a valid point, that is synonymous with the world we share today. There is such an orchestrated campaign against Christianity, and for satanism in it’s many guises. The average person doesn’t stand a chance of deciphering the truth. Jesus, God, religion has been deliberately tarnished, blemished, instead we have occultist symbolism paraded as coolness.
    Throw me some Quotes DS, how forgiving is God likely to be when people have been unwittingly duped, deceived? Shirley, they do not know they are doing wrong, when all about them, this is the norm? We all like to believe in credible facts, and if the delivery seems credible, and it’s repeated often enough, well, we do seem like loonies…
    Same with ‘the mark of the beast’, say this was delivered unknowingly, (whatever you believe it is, tell me about the mark of Cain?) But must we accept this brand in full knowledge that it is an affront to God. Personally I think it is some way of altering our DNA, vaccines or similar. Kinda follows through on the theme of satans history of corrupting the image.

    1. Jesus is not dead; He has given His Spirit. That Spirit leads men into all truth, if the men are willing to follow Him. And that Spirit often leads even where mental understanding is lacking.

      No one following the Spirit of Jesus will be led by Him into the Mark, whatever it is or represents. Likewise, that same Spirit will lead men away from all evil, no matter how well disguised.

      “Unwittingly duped, deceived”…well, Jesus IS the truth…deception only happens, or continues, willingly…by refusing to know Him or know Him well.

      1. Hey Rob, I know of people who follow Jesus, and I’m just saying… There’s many different versions, some superficial renditions, others, like this page have a more in depth knowledge. How many people think they are doing the right thing, are going to be unwittingly led into evil? Suppose I follow the Pope for example? Is the pope not corrupt, a tool of the NWO or whoever we perceive to be in charge… The great deception is not an amateur plan, and I think Humans in their ignorance, are being led astray. What is the true faith? Does it reside in a church, a cult, or within each person?
        Gotta wonder why the increasing importance of mapping DNA in the general populace, where that is heading; how many moral, or Christian people are going to believe in mans law and do as the state tells them? Unknowingly have their DNA subverted so they are no longer Gods creation! What if the pope told 30 million catholics to partake in a vaccination?
        Given the pope has already come out and said we should be open to UFO’s, or the theory of evolution has merits…
        I’m not being hostile, I love going on utube and replying to likes of above, steer them in the indisputable facts of creation, the wonder and complexity of design.
        I also read extensively of the efforts made to corrupt this overwhelming love which has been laid on for us.
        People believe what they believe because that s the norm, and it’s really hard to access information like this page unless you have beyond a superficial quest for truth. I think most people are prepared to accept the status quo, live a good life, pay lip service to God, and think that’s enough.
        Does it make us as enlightened Christians any better than them? Are we getting an express ride to heaven, while they all take the slow train? Does Gods love see beyond the deception?

      2. There’s an article on here somewhere about the ‘colour’ ‘rainbow’ races. We had something similar around here a few months ago…before I even knew about this site. We received an invite, including a Youtube promo video link, looked at it and thought ‘naw, not for us…’ Then months later read this article and ‘ahah! So that’s why we said no…’

        Jesus said His sheep knew His voice and would not follow another. You don’t even have to hear ‘words’…you just know when the ‘voice’ you are hearing isn’t His. A dumb sheep without knowledge simply following His Voice…that’s good enough.

        Are all those hypothetical people you are talking about following His voice, or another’s?

        Is Jesus a liar?

        The amazing thing is sometimes when we don’t follow His voice, He still comes and gets us! But we’d be fools to test Him!

      3. You are correct about those who do not follow His voice. God chooses the “whomsoevers” (whomsoever is not synonymous with anyone or everyone) and is not us choosing God (Matthew 11:27). Thus we should be humble and not proud about this since it is not of ourselves but is the gift of God. (Ephesians 2:8-10)
        Certainly not judgmental of others who do not believe (John 7:24) because we ourselves were once in darkness and would still be unless His mighty hand plucked us out and translated us into His kingdom of light.(1 Peter 2:9; Colossians 1:13.)
        I find it a worthwhile task to investigate the interesting juxtaposition of the image of the beast and the voice of the shepherd.
        Faith cometh by hearing (Romans 10:17) whilst transforming those hearers into the image of Christ.(2 Corinthians 4:4)
        Faithlessness comes by seeing (and is a throwback against the adage “seeing is believing” just look at Israel leaving Egypt seeing all those miracles and yet remaining faithless) thus Jesus took on the pharisees on this issue telling them a faithless generation seeketh after a sign. (Matthew 16:4)

        It is quite interesting that we are well into a time of images especially when you examine Karl Marx and Socratic Theory which states “If you do not see it, it does not exist” aka scientific socialism.
        As I have said in my blog on The Generation Gap, God flips this in that if God does not see you you do not exist (aka predestination).

        We are to conform to the image of Christ and there is only one way for this to happen, as John the Baptiser said “Christ must increase and I must decrease” (John 3:30)
        The less of me there is the less there is to deceive, the less there is to tempt and lead astray. (James 1:14)
        The key point of the image of the beast is that to get entrapped in receiving the mark, name and number requires one to be full of self and not of Christ. (It will require loving this world and the things in this world, seeking self fulfillment as John said “Lust of the flesh, lust of the eyes and the pride of life” which is the three things Eve saw in the tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil. (1 John 2 :15-16 ; Genesis 3:6)
        This here is a sure defense against the image of the beast. Live unto Christ and die to self.

      4. For sure.

        It is God who works in us both to will and to do according to His good pleasure…so there is no room for boasting! Even the ability to repent is a gift given us by Him. I can’t work it out logically, but also don’t feel I need to. God is God…I’m not.

        Your reference to Lust of the Flesh..eyes…pride of life and comments on the Beast I find quite good. Something I see is that just as Jesus was tempted of these three in the wilderness, so we are now at the end of the age. And the Beast takes (took, I dare say) Satan up on the offer.

        The antidote is as you say: to die that He might live in us. “A body you have prepared for me…I have come to do your will, Oh God…” Die.

      5. I also like what you said about seeing versus hearing. There is something inside us which betrays us, even when God shows us something. We turn that thing…even the thing He shows us…into an idol of sorts. I mean even a visual revelation (seeing) from God can make us lust for visual revelations.

        And yet how often He speaks in such a quiet voice that we barely hear it over the roar in the other direction. But that hearing…it seems much harder to idolize! It is so faint! It is so unimpressive! It is so contrary to the ‘sign’ we lust for!

        But…Elijah in the cave?

  10. You surely are a scholar Mr Dunce, but I find the references difficult to comprehend. You lose coherence and I’m not able to follow the theme of this discussion.
    I kind of interpret this to say; unless we follow the true path we are doomed?
    How I read that is that if we follow Christs ways, live in love, do the right thing, wether we follow Christs teaching as closely as you guys, or if we simply lead a good life, ignorant of theology?
    I have a feeling, an nuance of an opinion; People who quote scriptures come across as a bit pious, that they are anoting others work rather than answering for themselves.
    Sorry if my opinion offends, not trying to be adverserial, but in my experience, if someone is unable to answer a question they may annote, as above, or respond aggressively…
    Again, is it enough to just live a good life, Ignorant of Gods word, yet following His word in principle?
    People believe what they are told, popular culture says there is no God, and there is a generation growing up believing that. By design I might add.
    Is ‘the mark of the beast’ a concept which is accepted knowingly? Tell me what scripture says on this please?

    1. Hi Stephen. I do not take you as being adversarial. Not at all. Questions require answers and we must not back down from the hard ones.

      I am not convinced I can be called a scholar, but I am doing what I believe needs to be done in the time we are in.

      Can I say as my first point that quoting of scripture is not about being pious (though I assume you are using it in it’s negative sense of being sanctimonious or hypocritical, I pray I do not come across like that) but rather it is impossible to “follow Christ’s ways, live in love” without scripture since it is a revealing of who God is to man. (please take you time looking through the Bible references. It is good to become acquainted with where things are in scripture and how to find them.)

      (Love is also not as we think it is. God loves us in this way, by giving us His commandments. John 14:31; Romans 13:9. Our way of loving God and man is by doing the commandments. John 14:15,21 1 John 5:2-3; 2 John 1:6. The more you love God and your neighbor which is keeping the commandments He will manifest himself to us. That is the meaning of the word Agape and many many Christians either lie or are lied to on this matter. Such talk is interpreted as legalism, but it is not because we are redeemed to keep the commandments not redeemed by the commandments. The cart MUST NOT be put before the horse.)

      Without scripture we have currently 6-7 billion opinions about God not including those of the past and those who have not been born.
      The question then that is most pertinent is “Where lies authority?”
      When you write a paper in a University for your degree or doctorate etc it is hardly acceptable (though this is changing most fearfully) to just say something without verification, what is your “standing” what are you standing on?
      That word is indelibly linked to authority.
      When you enter a court you most certainly want to have standing, you don’t want some arbitrary judgement. That standing is given to you by the law (like the above note this is also changing most fearfully).

      When a judge, for example, asks you if you understand and you respond “yes” you have just placed yourself under his jurisdiction and authority because what you have actually said (unbeknowest to most) is I stand under your authority.

      We find this in Hebrews 11:1 “Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen.”
      The Greek word for substance is hupostasis, hupo meaning “under” and stasis coming from the root word histemi meaning “standing” as in relation to a judge.

      Thus faith gives you standing before The Judge aka God.

      Faith is what makes you right before God not doing “good works” and this is why we read in Isaiah 64:6-7

      “But we are all as an unclean thing, and all our righteousnesses are as filthy rags; and we all do fade as a leaf; and our iniquities, like the wind, have taken us away. 7 And there is none that calleth upon thy name, that stirreth up himself to take hold of thee: for thou hast hid thy face from us, and hast consumed us, because of our iniquities.”

      Why has God made us like this? Is this fair?
      If you read verse 8 you will see an excellent metaphor saying that God is the potter and we are the clay.
      The reason God has set everything up the way He has is to bring us low and show us the key truth in all things, that He must have pre-eminence and must be pre-eminent.
      Anything that negates or demotes that pre-eminence is a sure sign of a false teaching and deception.

      When God is no longer the authority, men become tyrants. (The first tyrant was Nimrod because he wanted to set up a Shem aka Hebrew for Name or Authority, and Noah’s first born son was called Shem and he preached against Nimrod according to occult traditions. Thus Nimrod and his mafia wanted to overthrow Shem and establish their own Shem. Aka the only authority on which we can stand is the Word of God, that is why it is under vicious attack and endless doubts are cast against it.
      They are trying to establish their own Shem, and you know what that is.)

      This brings us to the question about the “Mark of the Beast”.

      No one can claim to fully comprehend this in it’s entirety because this is prophecy.
      Now if it has been completely fulfilled in history then yes we can say with confidence it is this or that, but it has not been completed in totality so we must be humble to not be deceived.

      Deception is the clear period we are in the midst of, in regards to prophecy, (200 years ago it was quite apparent where were were so something happened that pulled the wool over our eyes.)

      Revelation 19:20 “And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his image. These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone.”

      Deception came upon those who had received the mark.
      The “called of God” (which is the Greek word Ekklesia commonly mis-translated church but was correctly understood by John Wycliff who commented on this saying it should be congregation or assembly) we are told in Matthew 24:24

      “For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.”

      If it were possible but God intervenes and does not allow those He has chosen to be deceived not because of their goodness but because He put’s it in their hearts to “seek” “knock” and “find”.
      Those who do not desire to seek knock and find are happy and content in their deception and lies.
      If one is not compelled by God’s Holy Spirit to challenge self and make it line up with His Word (scripture), to look at ones life and see things that displease God and desire change then there must be self-deception regarding the condition, and that sets you up to being deceived.
      Consider 2 Timothy 3:13-14

      “But evil men and seducers shall wax worse and worse, deceiving, and being deceived. 14 But continue thou in the things which thou hast learned and hast been assured of, knowing of whom thou hast learned them;”

      The Greek word for learned is “manthano” which comes from “mathetes” aka disciple, a learner.

      When we learn the things of God it shines a light not only on the things around us but also upon us and we see how wrong we are and we conform to God’s image, not the beasts. And God’s image is His word for the Son of God is called the Word of God and is the express image of God on Earth. Thus what the Son does we should also emulate.

      Hebrews 1:1-3 says

      “God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets, 2 Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds; 3 Who being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high”

      So is the mark figurative or literal?

      I believe they are both, one that leads to the other.

      This is my reasoning:

      In Old Testament custom it was religious tradition as expressed in Exodus 13:9; Deuteronomy 6:8, 11:18 to strap a phylactery on ones hand and forehead, the same location the Mark of the beast is placed in Revelation 13:16.
      In these boxes was placed a passage from scripture. Of course Jesus rebuked the religious leaders for such an outward hypocritical performance in Matthew 23:5 cause it was only outward and not internal.

      Instead the word of God is to be written in you heart and mind and this is symbolised by the phylactery on the forehead.
      It is also to direct you actions and doings, your works, this is symbolised by the phylactery on the hand.

      So we firstly can interpret the mark of the beast as the Words or the thinking of the world system and the actions or doing that pertain to such a system. This is the figurative sense.

      (As you can see thus far knowing the scripture and quoting it is not “pious” but incredibly practical, not a performance but an proof and encouragement and expands the understanding.)

      Another aspect is examining the mark itself, usually spoken of as 666.
      This is actually completely incorrect and deceptive (I wonder why it’s been made so popular??) The actual words are

      600 60 and 6. This is very different to 666 as you will perceive.
      600 in Greek is chi xi stigma.

      Both Greek and Hebrew are different to our language of English. A letter can also be a number and is also used as a mark denoting a name.

      One quick example as I cannot write all about this, is Emperor Constantine I who defeated Emperor Maxentius at the Milvian bridge.
      We are told by Roman Historian Lactanius (who Constintine employed to educate his child) that prior to the battle Constintine saw a sign in the sky with a voice saying In this sign conquer. The sign was a Chi which is like our X but sounds like our CH this sign was placed upon his army’s shields and became their ensign. (This was the symbol of Constantine’s Sun God Sol Invictus and he blended Paganism with Christianity which eventuated in Roman Catholicism)
      Eusebius of Caeserea writes that they put the Chi Rho on their shields (the first Greek letters in the name Christ)
      We know that the X in Roman Catholicism means Christ eg: the letters Chi and Rho looks like an X with a P through the X is called the Pax Christus (The peace of Christ) OUCH (See Daniel 8:25) Here is a clear example the X means Christ and is also a mark placed upon the forehead or right hand during Ash Wednesday and is also the number 600. Sometimes it is an upright cross t or T and this letter is the Stimga (aka number 6) where we get the word Stigmata meaning a mark on or in the flesh.

      stigma Meaning: 1) a mark pricked in or branded upon the body. To ancient oriental usage, slaves and soldiers bore the name or the stamp of their master or commander branded or pricked (cut) into their bodies to indicate what master or general they belonged to, and there were even some devotee’s who stamped themselves in this way with the token of their gods

      In the middle ages the Roman Catholic Church would mark their people on Ash Wednesday with the X or t and their name would be put in a ledger of that town. Those whose names were not in the ledger could not buy or sell in that town as per Revelation 13:17.

      That is just one example.

      That brings us to the modern idea of the wider application of electronics and digital technology which I am sure you are well aware of. Examples of the electronic tattoo, pill authentication, implantable devices etc. (This is an issue I do address in Part 2 of Why Yoga is not for Christians which I am completing. It is interesting how Yantra’s come into the fray here.)

      What we need to comprehend is this modern technology needs to connect with the past, and it appears it does.
      The Vatican has been busy for centuries in what is called the Counter Reformation and they have produced a spell binding counter offensive that can be tied together with a growing body of evidence.
      These are their domination over civil law and international finance through three centers of power. The only 3 privately owned states in the world. The City of London created in 1694, Washington DC (the corporation) created in 1871 and The Vatican State created in 1929.

      We are in the midst of an ongoing deception and the only way to establish where we really are now is to examine the past and see where men and women were rooted in time and space. (I say time and space for a reason)
      To then find where we deviated and establish what devices were used to waylay mankind.

      I think a blog on the Mark of the Beast would be helpful at some point as the aspects of the occult ideas behind 666 are interesting. Eg: The Monster energy drink has the Hebrew letter vav’s is seen 3 times as the scratch marks as the logo. Vav is the number 6 in hebrew and is considered good luck. Barcodes unnumbered bars equal 6 3 times etc.
      Global warming and blaming Carbon is interesting since Carbon has 6 Electrons, 6 neutrons, 6 protons and the atomic number is 6. They love this number but remember it is not 600 60 and 6. The distinction does need to be made.

      Regards Dunce

      1. But do not forget God’s direct revelation as a source of instruction…you know this well, I am sure.

        666 is also the numerical value of the Greek phrase “apollumetha”…what the disciples cried out in the boat during the storm i.e. “We Perish”. It is related to the destroyer Apollyon who is himself related to Apollo. But the core point here is that Apollyon marks his followers as his possessions…all of them destined for destruction as the scriptures say repeatedly.

        I have personally seen in a dream or vision the Mark on the forehead of the Anti-christ and on the forehead of one of his very Aryan looking followers. I saw them communicating through that mark, or because of that mark; the primary form of that Mark was the hexagram which some call the Seal of Solomon or shield of David. But only God is David’s shield. If you want some scary perspective on the State of Israel’s view of the hexagram, go to the Israeli Ministry of Foreign Affairs website and search on Solomon’s Seal. Read the article…it is incredibly revealing. Think WWII and what happened to those who took that Mark…and project it forward.

        But the hexagram I saw was not the sum total of the Mark…that was just its outline. There were many other symbols intertwined…so even what I saw was part literal, part symbolic…and I don’t know where the line is. I see technology worship in there also.

        It has since stood out to me the three red symbols used by the world’s first aid groups: the cross, the crescent, and the hexagram. Something is going on there, very Edomite in origin.

        There is a lot more I have seen on this topic, but I’m a bit leery of just putting it out here. Jesus did not not to cast pearls before swine, or give what is holy to dogs. So how much to say requires wisdom.

      2. Yes the Hexagram also possesses 666 as well.
        I am quite perturbed by some who try to say Davids shield was a hexagon shape.
        What is interesting though is a 6 spoked chariot was considered as a war chariot whilst an 8 spoked chariot was considered a peace chariot.
        Notice the Vatican Piazza and the 8 spokes on the sun wheel with the Obelisk in the center.

        Wisdom is certainly required and there is much to be said for holding ones cards to one chest or not casting pearls and avoid being rent.

        As for God’s direct revelation (though I tend to find most of the time it is directed revelation), I agree though again it brings up the point that one must know the scriptures to know if what they are hearing is deception or true.

        If you investigate Yantra’s you will discover technology blends perfectly with Eastern Philosophy, and makes sense why so many are into tattooing and body modification. We are being prepared.
        I do not believe the “mark” will be something forced on people, at least not till after some time. I believe just like technology is taken up one advance at a time, people will gently slide into the marks slavery step by step.
        We need to be very aware of this to know where the line in the sand should be drawn regarding technology.
        The term “he causeth” in Rev 13 leads me to believe this is a gradualism cause it means “to be the author of”
        What a contrast to the Author and Finisher of our faith. (The question needs to be asked, a gradualism over how long a period?)
        It is so easy to cause. In Australia the people were “caused” to have a Tax File Number simply because by not having one you pay 49% tax.
        At some point people were caused to have a Birth Certificate, get a drivers license, get a Marriage Certificate. It is not too hard to see the beast being “worshiped” when seen in this light.

      3. On the nail, all of that. Nothing to add or take away.

        Regarding ‘directed’: the seven kings/mountains of Revelation..letting scripture speak to scripture: the Herodian dynasty. Bar Kochba being the seventh, we await revealing of the ‘eighth’ and final.

        Prophecy is a bit like ring waves in a pool, unique…distinct…and yet similar…and one.

        Regarding preparation: my kids were asked to put marks on the back of their right hands to run in a triathlon. We asked if they could put it on their left hands…No! We pulled them out of the race.

        Just this week their music teacher informed us they would be taught out of a book series Abacadabra. We asked if they could learn out of another book…”no…it is a group thing.” But we “could tape over it!” Or use a marker! We sat the children down with a dictionary, looking up the word…and its defining words. Very enlightening to them and us. Anyway, after going through it we asked: “is taping it over good enough?” “No,” they said, “that would be deceitful.” “So what about the classes?” “We’ll not take the classes…we’ll wait to learn.” These two are ten and nine…and while the world is trying to prepare them for Satan, we are using those opportunities to mature them to stand against the evil one.

        And so it goes…small step by small step. The grey is disappearing, if it ever was…

      4. Had to deal with similar issues with my kids too.
        I have used these experiences to wisen them up and strengthen their resolve. It is excellent to hear you using them as opportunities for maturing them in the faith.
        A few years back my daughter (who was around 6) was asked what books she read at home and she said The Bible. The replacement teacher she had that day said “That’s a stupid book you should read better books than that.”
        The whole thing was denied and I explained to my daughter that I believed what she said. She learnt that day even teachers lie and some people hate the Bible with a religious fervor.

  11. Wondering if you could contact me by email as I have some PowerPoint presentations I have been putting together. I have not publicly shown them yet, just to a few closer brothers. I don’t think the time is right. But they go along with many of your articles, just filling in a few gaps. Not nearly as detailed as your articles though.

  12. Thanks for that! I’ve been reading this lately, pretty full on, have to take time to absorb it all, more dunce, less scholar me am… The guys a Christian too… Cosmic Codes: Hidden Messages From The Edge Of Eternity [Kindle Edition]
    Dr. Chuck Missler

  13. Matthew 6:5-13

    7-13 “The world is full of so-called prayer warriors who are prayer-ignorant. They’re full of formulas and programs and advice, peddling techniques for getting what you want from God. Don’t fall for that nonsense. This is your Father you are dealing with, and he knows better than you what you need. With a God like this loving you, you can pray very simply. Like this:

    Our Father in heaven,
    Reveal who you are.
    Set the world right;
    Do what’s best—
    as above, so below.
    Keep us alive with three square meals.
    Keep us forgiven with you and forgiving others.
    Keep us safe from ourselves and the Devil.
    You’re in charge!
    You can do anything you want!
    You’re ablaze in beauty!
    Yes. Yes. Yes.

    1. Interesting use of Eugene Peterson’s “The Message”.
      I did a Bible study on his “translation” a few years ago and certainly and eager to post it when I have time.
      Thank you Ronin
      you are most certainly right about the ignorance of prayer. (Once I have dealt with some issues my focus is coming round to be dealing with scripture in a more exclusive manner not within the context of other issues.)
      Too many take prayer as another word for “wishing” and unfortunately some Lexicons even define it as such.

      Instead prayer in the New Testament comes from the Greek word proseuchomai. Meaning to bow towards the will of another aka God.
      When we pray we submit to God’s will.

  14. I guarantee the writer of this knows more about symbolism and devil worship than Avicii, by a long shot. Thank you, writer, for further bastardizing common geometric shapes, and applying to them your own perverted meanings. Your arguments follow logically only if one accepts ancient dogma as reality, and even then you have to stretch the connections to make them fit.

    Guess what – if you have to insert your own unique interpretations, you completely lose accuracy in comparison to the original intent of the author (Avicii). Unfortunately, your skills in language and your archaic belief system far outweigh your ability to reason like a rational person.

    Certainly Occam’s Razor becomes a moot point to you if you want to dig 10 kilometers deep into a creative work that only reaches 100 meters. This goes for any creative work that you probably tried to ‘interpret.’ Additionally, this is a direct reflection of your irrational paranoia that is indicative of an old-school conservative mindset of somebody too scared to accept or understand new information, or a new line of reasoning, such as gay rights.

    As I am sure every nutjob that reads and agrees with what you say is STILL reading what I’ve typed, I have a message for you types: stop wasting your time reading this nonsensical garbage and invest your time in scholastic or academic reading, or glorious works of fiction like The Lord of the Rings. Spend your time on this planet being happy and learning of new things, not scared of your surroundings, and repressed by yesterday’s follies.

    1. Can’t please everyone. In fact I am not interested in pleasing anyone.
      If you do not like what I write or think I am a nut job then please do not distress yourself and your pursuit of “happiness” whatever that is.
      Oh I have read The Hobbit and Lord of the Rings and numerous other works.
      I am far from being a cloistered monk, I write because I have been involved in the world and have loved it and it’s philosophies.
      I think being scared in our society is being scared of speaking out as we plummet into a totalitarian mind controlling state. I do not believe I am scared.
      But one is a fool who does not fear God and grow in loving His commandments.
      I am scared for those who are comfortable with probing the depths of human depravity whilst calling it choice.

  15. are you nuts ?

    Tim Bergling (Swedish pronunciation: [tɪm ˈbærjˈlɪŋ]; born 8 September 1989), better known by his stage name Avicii (/əˈviːtʃi/, a-VEE-chee; Swedish pronunciation: [aˈvɪtɕɪ]; stylized as ɅVICII or ◢ ◤ symbol), is a Swedish EDM DJ, remixer, and a country and electro house record producer.

    See : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Avicii

      1. I didn’t know about the German sentry box. I see it. Not surprising, I guess. Still grappling with the Herodian’s trail from Edom to Israel to France to Germany. And I don’t really understand why NZ seems to figure so large in the anti-christ’s plans.

        The State of Israel’s nuclear missile subs were provided by Germany. One of them is named Leviathan. Cute, eh? Guess God wasn’t joking with Job…and the days of Lamech’s revenge come soon.

      2. Why should NZ B immune to the grand deception, it’s a worldwide plan; certainly feeling the heat here in strya. so I suppose John Key and his cronies also have to toe the line.
        Since I’m compelled to comment, and defend my native home; allow me also to share some insights… I’ve been reading a series of books lately revolving around the book of Daniel; they all rely heavily on the works and teachings of Eye-sack Newton. The numerology of the bible was his lifes work. His interpretation of Jewish feast days, Shemitahs, Jubilees etc and his calculation of the calender, including the return to Israel. That today was the day… 6000 years since Creation!
        And such a perfect day it is!
        As I understand it, there’s a few more prophecies to come thru before the grand finale…
        Is rebuilding the temple, a literal building? What is the obimination or desolation? Is the nation of Israel justified in their war against Palestine? Do they have a mandate to kill? Could this be interpreted into above passage?

      3. You have opened a can of worms, and why I have repeatedly asked for a private contact ability.

        Isaac Newton’s calculations were wrong. So were Bishop Ussher’s. Mixing secular and bible history never works because they are not equal: men lie, God does not. No mixture. If it was his life’s work, he relied too much on his brain.

        I have gone through the scriptures myself, verse by verse, and put all the information I could find in a spreadsheet, year by year. And I have also prayed and fasted, and leaned not on my own understanding, asking God to reveal the meaning of His words.

        God does not lie. A day for a year He said, and a thousand years for a day He said. 6000 years allotted to man is correct, then the Sabbath millennium reign of Jesus Christ from Zion. It is NOT the year 6000…it is the year 5986/7. And when you actually do the work yourself instead of relying on liars, a lot of confusion contradiction goes away. You know exactly where they took liberties, and you know who is lying or deceived today.

        So I tell you for a fact that I can back up with facts: Solomon’s temple was completed the year 3000; Jesus’ body–the Temple–was resurrected the year 4000. Jerusalem’s temple was destroyed one generation later AS HE SAID, in the year 4040. From the year 4040 until the year 6000 is 1960 years, a generation (40) of Jubilees (49). The year 6000 is also the 70th Jubilee from the first Jubilee…thirty before the kingdom was removed, forty after.

        Abraham was called by God before he was in Haran, still in Mesopotamia, in the year 2080, 1960 years prior to 4040. That makes a ‘seven’ before and a ‘seven’ after Jerusalem’s destruction by the Romans…the green period followed by the dry, the years of plenty before the years of lack.

        Daniel’s prophecy of chapters 10-12, in which he mentions the “times, time, and half a time”, was in the year 3480. You do the math.

        Biblical numerology? Nebuchadnezzar is ISRAEL, cast out of their kingdom in ‘A.D. 70’ and made like the rest of the ‘beasts of the field’–gentiles–for ‘seven times’ until they acknowledged God’s right to assign them their King and Saviour and admitted they stood by HIS POWER and NOT THEIR OWN. That ‘seven times’ is nearly fulfilled…you do the math…and you will know what a ‘time’ is.

        Matthew 1, read the generations and COUNT THEM. The third set is missing a name; there are only 13, and there should be 14, by the mouth of God: a contradiction? No…an opportunity to seek wisdom, and insight into what a ‘generation’ is.

        So time is short; the date approaches…and I can prove it lots more ways from the scriptures: READ EXODUS 19 AND REMEMBER “A day is as a thousand years…” because that Sinaii experience was a foreshadowing of Jesus’ second coming and return to Zion…and I tell you, the people who are there now have ascended the Mount of God BEFORE THE TRUMPET and WILL BE SHOT THROUGH.

        Had the world not been deceived by the syncretism of apostasy, had they observed the date of Jesus’ death and resurrection instead of His physical birth, they would be getting ready for Y2K, the correct Y2K, at the correct time. But they are wrong by 30 years in focusing on the beginning of the race and not the end, contrary to God’s wisdom. 2030AD is the year 6000.

      4. Wow… Thanks so much for your reply! Have you ever written a book? I read copiously, mostly A’la kindle on the train to work and back… Really inspiring what you say about zion, thats enough food for thought in itself… There’s lots of versions out there of prophecy, but I don’t hang my hat on any of them really; so many commentaries and I don’t profess to have the capacity to absorb diverse incarnations of the same original. Saying that, I struggle reading straight from scripture… I can read Daniel and I lose concentration, it’s not like a novel where you can pick up the thread at the bottom of the page; every word is meaningful. So I read interpretations on it and it helps me understand betterer!
        I’m reading David? Flynns collection atm, think it’s temple at centre of time? Unsure (grr kindle), but interesting about the temple, things that stay in my mind, what did Jesus say about the temple ? And the Ark of the covenant, cubits, dimensions, measures, distances…
        I’ve got 30+ hours on that, so if you have any suggested reading? I’m liking where above discussion is going, the whole Isreal thing, I smell a rat. Napolean cancelled his plans to reunify Israel, has the modern date been randomly selected by kindly benefactors, as coincidence, I don’t think there’s any such thing, them self professed illuminated ones have their agenda, and happenstance is not their methodology…
        Happy to discuss further, always good for anyone else to stumble on enlightenment, so public forum is gooderer…

      5. Actually Stephen, I’ve blundered a bit, thinking I was replying to “Dunce!” For yourself, I would encourage you to stop reading anyone else’s stuff, including what I write, and start reading the scriptures themselves exclusively. Otherwise you will do exactly what you do: sit on the fence without commitment because you don’t know where to commit. What I am saying now is far more important than anything I’ve said: reading books gives you ‘enlightenment’ and ‘knowledge’ but that is not the same thing as knowing God through Jesus Himself. If I know anything at all, it is only because He reveals Himself and explains Himself. So you can have a thousand teachers from books, and just get confused by the multitude of contradictory opinions, or you can seek the Teacher. It is not about WHAT you know, it is about WHO you know.

        And realize that the enemy will be making a concerted effort to keep you from studying the scriptures; he would rather you study anything but the scriptures themselves, because he knows everything else is corrupted, including the ‘christian’ stuff. So you’ll grab the bible and get sleepy, and foggy, and impatient…expect it. But pray and fight and don’t give in…expect God to answer.

      6. Rob cannot agree more.
        Stephen the opinions of men will confuse you.
        You must get rooted in the Word.
        As you said not what you know but who you know.
        This was Pilates issue What is truth not who is truth (aka the one who stood in front of him.)

      7. Thank you simon, rob. But the word wouldn’t mean a thing to me without someone to ‘interpret’ it.
        I appreciate what various authors are doing, how they each can vary a translation on a certain passage. I find it very enlightening in a multifaceted way, some contradict others, but I believe the word itself has different levels of understanding… I have regular conversations with JW’s, doesn’t mean I agree with them or will be joining them anytime soon…

      8. The Bible is it’s own commentary on itself. It is it’s own dictionary and own interpreter.
        The Word of God is that “someone”.
        Such advice will save much wandering through the refuse of mens thoughts and ideas. I should know I did it.

      9. Don’t know why, but feeling the need to defend myself…
        You are all making your own interpretations of scripture! If I choose not to listen to any man, I will start here and unfollow this blog! What is so different in following your above thread on symbolism? You are taking a topic then commenting on it, analysing it in a biblical context.
        Touche’ I say! If I followed your advice I would not follow any preacher, any sort of bible study, not any religion either. I should not regard any missionary, or any work of man? I’m definitely disregarding what the pope says, we should welcome aliens into our faith, yeah right…
        Then which version of the bible shall I study? The KJV? perhaps the Gideon? I have a copy of septuagint on kindle; I read that, but it’s not light reading…
        I’m a fan of authors who can translate the original hebrew, the first meaning of the words, not versions and translations!
        Don’t take me for a fool. I read authors who are immersed in bible study, I’m reading their commentary which is an in depth account of what it written in the bible, maybe backed up with historical or extra biblical sources, but it helps me understand…
        So do not fear for me, get back on track, work on your delivery, maybe you can help some people, instead of peddling fear and paranoia?

      10. You do not need to defend yourself.
        If you have faith then you have standing under Christ (hupostasis) then stand firm.
        I express concern out of love not condemnation.
        I myself am not interested in men, only the truth they speak.
        If a man moves away from the truth I do not follow them into their error.
        In all things the Word of God needs to be my standard to avoid my drift into great error.
        No man can be 100% on everything, but we need to be growing into that as we grow in Grace and in the Knowledge of God.
        If you wish to unfollow that is neither here nor there.
        My wife encouraged me to start making use of stuff that I knew. I felt that if I only made a difference in the life of one person then it was worth it. I never sought to have thousands reading, only one.

      11. I assume your reply was meant to Stephen?

        In any case, I agree with your comments. Free men need never defend themselves: to Jesus Christ they stand, and no man is free who seeks men’s approval.

        Nevertheless, I do see wisdom in obeying Jesus’ instructions to reserve holy and valuable things for those who will recognize them and treat them as such, and see how He handles different people differently. I think we ought do likewise, and in that I blundered…though innocently.

      12. You really should listen, it is sound counsel. You are dead wrong to make men your interpreter, that job belongs to the Holy Spirit as He interprets His own Word to you. And He works by bringing other scripture to mind appropriately, so that scripture interprets scripture. Men are broken reeds and when you lean on them, you will fall because they will break right through at the most critical time.

        You asked if I wrote a book: I have deliberately NOT written a book because I do not want to become a broken reed; I do NOT want men relying on me; if I say anything at all it only is to inspire men to seek the one who answers all mysteries, God Himself…not to become a guru myself. My testimony is that He is true: if you seek HIM, you will find, because He is faithful.

        You are saved by FAITH or not at all, and if you can not trust Jesus to reveal Himself to you, personally, without others in between, you should question your FAITH. Five wise virgins, five foolish…and one cannot sell to the other. Time is running out to get your oil…get it now!

      13. P.P.S. First, let’s be specific and clear. There is a difference between the Rothschild creation called the State of Israel, (a commercial entity created by the declaration of independence appealing to the authority of the United Nations and sealed in red wax with the hexagram–read its text and view its image)…and God’s people of Israel, both natural and spiritual. The confusion is intentional and deceptive.

        No, the State of Israel does not have the godly authority to declare the premature fulfillment of prophecy and invoke for authority the God of Abraham they deny and denied at their founding. All of the prophets, especially Isaiah, spoke against the people of Israel for their reliance on and abuse of power in oppressing others, including the strangers among them, rather than their reliance on God. The State of Israel and its founders appeal to nothing but raw military power, technological and monetary genius, and give only lip-service with private interpretations to the “Rock of Israel” who they take not to be Yahweh but rather ‘Zion’ as a concept of independent self-empowerment. The State of Israel is pure anti-christ, and is either the Beast itself or the image of the beast. There was no other kingdom that “was, is not, and will be” at the writing of Revelation except that destroyed by the Romans resulting in a dispossessed king Agrippa, a head of the Beast without a body.

        This State of Israel is the fig tree that Jesus cursed: putting on leaf and declaring itself to be the fulfillment of prophecy but not bringing forth the fruits of repentance. The State of Israel is, if you will, the image of Nazi Germany and that is why they have taken that mark and made it their national symbol. The land of Israel is itself one giant concentration camp for the Jews…promising to be a safe refuge from persecution but actually leading them to their incineration in the near future.

        I could send you quote after quote by the likes of David Ben Gurion to prove the point; he is pure antichrist, the voice of the dragon. And most ‘christians’ in the west worship this beast.

        I mentioned Lamech previously. Do you know why? Please read his boast in some version actually quoting the Septuagint and you’ll find it reads “SEVENTY TIMES SEVEN TIMES”…not “Seventy-seven times” as the KJV and others more modern have it. Read it in Tyndale, for example. So when Jesus was answering Peter’s question on FORGIVENESS and said “seven times?”, Jesus was SPECIFICALLY recalling the comparison of God avenging Cain SEVEN times, and Lamech avenging himself FOUR HUNDRED NINETY times, i.e. seventy sevens or, put in terms of Daniel, 70 weeks. Now this modern State of Israel is LAMECH who does not wait God’s vengeance but avenges himself. So understand Jesus was both providing the counterpoint to Lamech, and also telling us a TIMESPAN…that forgiveness is available for SEVENTY WEEKS.

  16. P.S. I said 2030..really it more like 2029. And in case you miss my point: the State of Israel is NOT the prophesied return to the land in blessing, but rather the prophesied return to the land for judgment. The people gathered there from the nations will be judged in fire and destroyed, with only a small remnant…because they remain boastful, idolatrous, rebellious, hardhearted, and opposed to God’s choice for Messiah.

    That will soon change, and God will pick up the serpent by the tail again, and it will become a rod again. But it is, now, yet a serpent…and let us not compromise the truth for men’s approval lest we ourselves be deceived.

  17. Any chance this has anything to do with alien abduction cases where the alleged victims receive triangular markings on their body after the event

  18. Wow thanks, I just looked up what the “avicii symbol” means. Thank you for showing all believers what avicii is really trying to say. It disgusts me how music these days hides messages in the music

  19. I dismissed everything you wrote in your very long editorial as soon as I read “I personally know for a fact that bands in the 60’s for example could not gain any gigs till they signed up as card carrying members of the Communist Party.” You totally lost any potential credibility with that statement! I had a lot of musician friends and boyfriends in the 60’s, and even managed a band, and communism never played into any of it, EVER! Not one member of any of the bands (and this was Chicago and Minneapolis, not some small town) was a communist and no booking client ever asked if the band was comprised of any communists. Your assertion is 100% absurd, and a product of your imagination!

    1. Hi Kat Thank you for your perspective. I believe you when you say you never came across anything of the sort. Maybe it is very different in Chicago?
      My father is the one who told me about what their band had to go through to get gigs. Being Australian I am not surprised there is a difference between what you experienced and what my father experienced. Two different countries and such.

  20. Thank you for your hard work. I have covered much of this over the years, but you have certainly added much for thought. You mentioned briefly the 60s rock groups and the occult connection. You may have already read David McGowan’s works on the subject, but he has some very interesting investigations for those who have never gone there before. http://centerforaninformedamerica.com/inside-the-lc-the-strange-but-mostly-true-story-of-laurel-canyon-and-the-birth-of-the-hippie-generation-part-i/

  21. First and foremost I would like to thank you for that. It opened my eyes a lot. I was brought up Southern Baptist I think what we need as the human race is we need to follow the words Jesus Christ do the best we can help our fellow man and get out of the monetary system it’s corrupt. We need to follow the Venus Project. We need to use a renewable resource based system. I strongly urge you to check out the Venus Project it’s astounding. God bless

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