Explaining the Meaning of Sticking Out the Tongue.


Please be advised that some pictures may be graphic and possibly disturbing to weaker constitutions. I have endeavoured to choose the lesser whilst still displaying the point. This has not always been possible considering the nature of the evil being dealt with.

I have heard a few people mention issues regarding the sticking out of the tongue but many have not known exactly what is wrong with it.

I am writing this to display and bring the very notions of why this it wrong back to remembrance using images and explanations which you will remember through culturally embedded media generated memories.

If you feel there is something wrong with sticking out the tongue, you are discerning the spirit behind it.

In fact if you have an inkling that it is wrong, the truth is you know why it is wrong, you just haven’t put the disparate pieces together or put your finger on it. That is why the scriptures tell us to meditate on His Word/ think on His Word, then the Holy Spirit will open up the dark places as though they were light.

I hope this helps.



The Sticking out of the Tongue

Before we look at scripture I ask what are the ideas behind this gesture, I wish to mention that what means one thing in one culture does not mean the same in another.

For example nodding your head up and down in Bulgaria means “NO” whereas to everywhere else in the world it means “YES” and shaking your head side to side means “YES” in Bulgaria and “NO” to everywhere else in the world (as far as I am aware).

Sticking your tongue out in the West is a sign of disrespect but in China it is a sign of embarrassment (and I have sometimes used it in that manner without realising it when making a stupid mistake, so I guess there is some logic to it.)

In Tibet it is a sign of respect.

What we are specifically looking at is that the gesture used in Western Culture because it has it’s roots in Hebrew Culture and the primary reason for this is because the West has stood, at least in a general sense, upon a Biblical basis for over 1500 years.

Lets examine some scripture on this matter.

The Word of God states in Psalm 39:1

“I said, I will take heed to my ways, that I sin not with my tongue: I will keep my mouth with a bridle, while the wicked is before me.”

One of the most difficult things is keep the tongue in it’s place, “for out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaketh” Matthew 12:34. This becomes even more difficult where the wicked are before you, that is against you.

“Thou shalt not follow a multitude to do evil; neither shalt thou speak in a cause to decline after many to wrest judgment” Exodus 23:2

The natural tenancy is to rise up in the flesh and proclaim arrogantly and in pride supremacy over their power.

James writes in James 3:1-8

“My brethren, be not many masters, knowing that we shall receive the greater condemnation. For in many things we offend all. If any man offend not in word, the same is a perfect man, and able also to bridle the whole body. Behold, we put bits in the horses’ mouths, that they may obey us; and we turn about their whole body. Behold also the ships, which though they be so great, and are driven of fierce winds, yet are they turned about with a very small helm, whithersoever the governor listeth. Even so the tongue is a little member, and boasteth great things. Behold, how great a matter a little fire kindleth!  And the tongue is a fire, a world of iniquity: so is the tongue among our members, that it defileth the whole body, and setteth on fire the course of nature; and it is set on fire of hell.  For every kind of beasts, and of birds, and of serpents, and of things in the sea, is tamed, and hath been tamed of mankind:  But the tongue can no man tame; it is an unruly evil, full of deadly poison.”

None the less we are not speaking about words here but esoteric symbolism, signs, symbols and sigils. That it also declares what is in the heart too. It is what the scripture would call “conversation” since there is more than one way of communicating.

Philippians 1:27 

“Only let your conversation be as it becometh the gospel of Christ”

Lets look at our first well known picture which made me decide to provide this brief explanation in the first place thanks to a PDF put out by Dr Scott Johnson.


England’s Coat of Arms




Here the Lion and the Unicorn both stick out their tongue.

Now it is clear that the sticking out of the tongue even looking at English culture and not the Bible is one that declares disrespect, disobedience and rebellion.

But we see this very clearly when examining Isaiah 57:4

“Against whom do ye sport yourselves? against whom make ye a wide mouth, and draw out the tongue? are ye not children of transgression, a seed of falsehood,”

To Draw out is  %r;a’  ‘arak in Hebrew meaning to lengthen out.

This picture shows us clearly

1. A Wide Mouth

Psalm 22:13

“They gaped upon me with their mouths, as a ravening and a roaring lion.”

This Portion of the psalm is important because it is specifically referring to Jesus Christ. So the symbolism is more than just against the righteous or the peoples of the world even, it is specifically against the King of Kings and Lord of Lords. See Job 16:9-10

2. A tongue drawn out of the mouth or lengthened.

3. Our understanding is that sport is the attitude towards the treatment of a person or a people. The peoples of the world are made sport of by an ungodly Monarchy. See Prince Phillips involvement with Hitler, his WWF and depopulation agenda etc, Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth II as a Dame of Malta and Head of the Church of England, Her involvement with the Bilderberg meetings and Her refusal to act in relation to at the very least the persistent breaking of the Australian Constitution by a non Constitutional – Corporate body called “The Commonwealth of Australia inc”, and then looking back in history some of the terrible crimes committed against humanity. Eg: Irish Potato Famine, the Opium Wars in China etc.

The peoples of this world are truly being made sport of, and not just by these alone.

Matthew Poole writes in his commentary on this passage of scripture

“Make a wide mouth, and draw out the tongue: these are the known and common gestures of mockers, of which see Job xvi. 10 ; Psal. Xxii. 7 ; XXXV. 21. Are ye not children of transgression, a seed of falsehood of either an adulterous brood, as was said before; or a generation of liars, whose practices grossly contradict your principles and professions, who deal deceitfully and perfidiously both with God and with men.” pg 456

Matthew Henry comments well on this passage from Isaiah stating

“I I . The particular crimes laid to their charge.

1. Scoffing at God and his word. They were a generation of scorners (v. 4 ) : “Against whom do you sport yourselves ? You think it is only against the poor prophets, whom you trample upon as contemptible men, but really it is against God himself, who sends them, and whose message they deliver.”

Mocking the messengers of the Lord was Jerusalem’s measure-filling sin, for what was done to them God took as done to himself.

When they were reproved for their sins, and threatened with the judgments of God, they ridiculed the word of God with the rudest and most indecent gestures and expressions of disdain. They sported themselves, and made themselves merry, with that which should have made them serious, and under which they should have humbled themselves.

They made wry mouths at the prophets, and drew out the tongue, contrary to all the laws of good breeding; nor did they treat God’s prophets with the common civility with which they would have treated a gentleman’s servant that had been sent to them on an errand.

Note, Those who mock at God, and bid defiance to his judgements, had best consider who it is towards whom they conduct themselves so insolently.”

When perusing John Gill’s Commentary he mentioned a scripture that I had not considered and none other commentary I consulted had mentioned Revelation 13:4-8

”And they worshipped the dragon which gave power unto the beast: and they worshipped the beast, saying, Who is like unto the beast? who is able to make war with him? And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months. And he opened his mouth in blasphemy against God, to blaspheme his name, and his tabernacle, and them that dwell in heaven. And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations. And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.”

So here, as we will see again later, is the spirit working behind this display. The spirit of antichrist. When we examine this issue is this what we will find?

Examining “Isaiah Translated and Explained Volume 2” by Joseph Addison Alexander, it mentions some worthy investigation by stating

“The opening or stretching of the mouth in mockery is mentioned Ps. 22: 7, 13. 35: 21. Lam. 2 : 16, and in chap 58 : 9…
The lolling of the tongue as a derisive gesture is referred to by Persius in poetry and Livy in prose.”

So looking at Mythology we find in Medusa a perfect snapshot of Isaiah 57:4 in reading from Modern American Poetry Medusa in Myth and Literary History,




“…Medusa’s mask still retains its secret. What is the reason for the viperine hair, the wide-open mouth with the lolling tongue, and, in particular, why is Medusa female?” http://www.english.illinois.edu/maps/poets/a_f/bogan/medusamyth.htm

Also notice the vampiric teeth in the image. All pagan mythology though very disjointed is found throughout all man’s culture like oil mixed with water, it is convoluted.

The mystery of why Medusa is female is not hard to uncover. We find in Hinduism the goddess Kali described aptly as follows

“Other Kali Dhjyanas add that she is accompanied by her ghoulish friends and that she has a half moon on her forehead; the sun moon and fire for her three eyes; matted hair; lolling tongue; a snake draped around her like a sacred thread; and a body black as mascara, adorned with all manner of jewels and ornaments. She is so brilliant that even the gods worship her.” pg 19-20 Singing to the goddess: Poems to Kali and Uma from Bengal by Rachel Fell McDermott

A discussion we leave specifically for later on Kali as a stand alone matter.

What equally becomes clear from this passage is that Isaiah 57 is specifically speaking about Israel’s IDOLATRY and here we have a clear image of that possible associated idolatry.

Let’s push this a little further by examining Isaiah 57:5

“Enflaming yourselves with idols under every green tree…”

It is interesting to note that the tree is worshiped in paganism and is where we derive the Christmas Tree as a symbol of the Female, The Grove. The Star on top representing the Male and thus the repetitive obsession in paganism with sex worship.

It is also perfectly clear this worship is an echo back to the first act of rebellion by Eve and consented to by Adam by taking of the fruit knowingly from that one tree.

Consider “Keil and Delitzsch Commentary on the Old Testament Volume 7”

‘Elim signifies either gods or terebinths (see vol. i. 108, note 1). But although it might certainly mean idols, according to Ex. xv. 11, Dan. xi. 36 ( LXX. , Targ., and Jerome), it is never used directly in this sense, and Isaiah always uses the word as the name of a tree (ch. i. 29, 1×1. 3). The terebinths are introduced here, exactly as in ch. i. 29, as an object of idolatrous lust: “who Inflame themselves with the terebinths;” b. denotes the object with which the lust is excited and inflamed. The terebinth (‘ēlâh) held the chief place in tree-worship (hence mnla, lit. oak-trees, together with mla, is the name of one of the Phoenician gods*), possibly as being the tree sacred to Astarte; just as the Samura Acacia among the heathen Arabs was the tree sacred to the goddess ‘Uzza.^ The following expression, “under every green tree,” is simply a permutative of the words ” with the terebinths” in the sense of ” with the terebinths, yea, under every green tree” (a standing expression from Deut. xii. 2 downwards),— one tree being regarded as the abode and favourite of this deity, and another of that, and all alluring you to your carnal worship. From the tree-worship with its orgies, which was so widely spread in antiquity generally, the prophet passes to the leading Canaanitish abomination, viz. human sacrifices,…” pg 423 – 424

It is of vast interest to note that when there is a celebration in Arab nations it is frequently seen with a triumphal “lolling” of the tongue, uniquely by the women only (as I have observed), and reflects the exact same initial sound as the above Hebrew denotes aka la . Reading right to left are the letters Aleph and Lamed which sound like Al. The lolling heard frequently is a “Alalalalalalalalalalala” Also the first sound in the name Al la h, note the distinctive use of the L and A, the H at the end would be a breathing sound.    

Here we have the clear cut understanding that what was taking place and what Isaiah was confronted with which was an arrogant and foreboding affront to God Almighty as an outright act of rebellion, involving the worship of the Feminine Deity (Astarte aka Easter or Ishtar, Medusa) as the powerful feminine which included the calling out of her name.

This in no way denotes that the masculine was not also worshipped like Baal, Moloch etc. In fact that was probably the most likely case.

Within paganism it is good not to get hung up on the absolute distinctions of male and female within it’s philosophical framework because such concepts are quite interchangeable even to the point of unity aka Hermaphrodite or Androgyny, which really is a convolution of being rather than unity of being.

It is worthwhile examining this further because the myths correspond with certain aspects directly with revelation.

I have found that throughout scripture the myths of paganism seemingly included within scripture are not as a copy of paganism but as an open display of the supremacy of God over paganism.

As it says in Colossians 2:14-15  

“Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross;  And having spoiled principalities and powers, he made a shew of them openly, triumphing over them in it.”

The purpose is the deliberate intention to show mankind that He is above all gods, and trumps even the foolish myths of man.

Certainly a book I would so desire to write in time if God wills it is the explanation how directly our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ made an open display of the powers and put them under his feet within an Historical and Cultural context of the whole entire world.
This is a work I think only capable of tackling at the end of my life rather than at this mid point and I do not know yet near enough to do it justice.

Further to this we find that Isaiah 57:6 reads

“among the smooth stones of the stream is thy portion; “

These small stones are well described again in Keil and Delitzsch Commentary on the Old Testament Volume 7 stating

Black Stone of Omar

“In Carthage such stones were called abbadires (ryda, !ba) ; and among the ancient Arabs, the asnâm or idols consisted for the most part of rude blocks of stone of this description. Herodotus (iii. 8) speaks of seven stones which the Arabs anointed, calling upon the god Orotal. Suidas (s.v. Qeuj arhj) states that the idol of Ares in Petra was a black square stone; and the black stone of the Ka’aba was, according to a very inconvenient tradition for the Mohammedans, an idol of Saturn (zuhal).* Stoneworship of this kind had been practised by the Israelites before the captivity, and their heathenish practices had been transmitted to the exiles in Babylon.”

Notice the close association between the stones called “abbadires” and Revelation 9 destroyer being Abbadon in Hebrew.

This is not by chance as I show in an long piece I am currently completing on Islam and Protestant Eschatology.

ryda °addîr. Mighty, majestic (adj.); noble, principal, stately. When used substantively, °addîr parallels “mighty ones” (), “rulers” (), and is sandwiched between “captains” and “governors” () as the leaders of postexilic Israel. In the difficult verse it seems to refer to the saints. In the eschaton the Messiah is described as the one who will be over Israel () as the °addîr. This is to be none other than Jehovah himself (). TWOT Lexicon

!ba eben. Stone. The word “stone” is used as a title for God (, Gen 49:24 cf. ƒûr “rock”), and for the Messiah (Isa 28:16). TWOT Lexicon


Muslims kiss and touch the stone as seen above.

Muslim Ibn Jubayr (1145-1217) expressed his enthralment at kissing it saying

“The stone, when one kisses it, has a softness and freshness which delights the mouth; so much so that he who places his lips upon it wishes never to remove them. It suffices, moreover, that the Prophet said that it is the Right Hand of God on Earth.”

This is sex worship, It is also concerning that this is pure fanatical mysticism which is what the Emergent Church is diving into and it is only time before the fanaticism sets in.

It is also blasphemous in that Jesus Christ is called the Right Hand of God or the Right Arm or God.

In the History of the Christian Church Volume 4 by Phillip Schaff we are told this black stone

“… is called in Arabic Hhajera el-Assouád, the Heavenly Stone.”

It goes on describing it saying

“This is probably a meteoric stone, or of volcanic origin, and served originally as an altar. The Arabs believe that it fell from Paradise with Adam, and was as white as milk, but turned black on account of mans sins.”

Further descriptions make it’s origin and history very clear

“It is semi-circular in shape, measures about six inches in height, and eight inches in breadth, is four or five feet from the ground, of reddish black color, polished by innumerable kisses (like the foot of the Peter-statue in St. Peter’s at Rome), encased in silver, and covered with black silk and inscriptions from the Koran. It was an object of veneration from time immemorial, and is still devoutly kissed or touched by the Moslem pilgrims on each of their seven circuits around the temple.”

What is also quite telling is that the black stone is related to the magic arts as we read

“Typhonian Alchemy is pivotal in the initiation system of Dragon Rouge. Alchemy is the art of ennobling and has its roots in ancient Egypt where it was called Khemeia, “the production of the black stone”. The goal of this art was to produce an elixir of eternal life which was the same as the black stone or the black diamond. The word Khem means “black” and is the original black art in which man strives to become like the gods. Khem is also the name of the god of Alchemy. The dark god Set is also connected to Alchemy and the black stone. In the Greek and Hermetic tradition Khem was represented by Pan and Set by Typhon.” http://web.archive.org/web/20120217162758/http://www.dragonrouge.net/english/general.htm

I could go much further into this issue but that would take us well beyond the scope of this article.

But here we have seen that the practice opening wide the mouth and drawing out the tongue is not only disrespectful, but it is indicating sexual perverseness which we find in the worship and orgies of tree and rock worship, worship of the feminine, the moon, the fertility goddesses. Out and out rebellion.

So lets examine some popular images of the tongue DRAWN out in our Modern Pop Culture today


Rolling Stones



The Rolling Stones are the iconic band depicting rebellion and the rock industry itself is epitomised by that very self same spirit.

Practising clearly the First Commandment of Aleister Crowleys “Book of the Law”

“Do What Thou Wilt shall be the whole of the law”.

If you delve into the life of Mick Jagger you discover he and those around him were heavily involved in the occult.

He wrote the score for occult movie “The Invocation of my Demon Brother” which also starred Mick Jagger and founder of the church of Satan, Anton LaVey, who are both uncredited.

Anita Pallenberg also starred uncredited in this movie who dated three of the Rolling Stones members Brian Jones, Keith Richards and Mick Jagger.

What is notable is that Lucifer and Satan are two completely different entities which is supportive of today’s western occultism of Madam Blavatsky (A name that will keep coming up in this article) and Aleister Crowley.

Mick Jagger readily admits that something always would go strange at the start of playing the song “Sympathy for the Devil”.


Rolling Stones–Sympathy for the devil Altona 1969

Author Tony Sanchez of the book “Up and Down with the Rolling Stones” pg 199 explains it was a pre-planned satanic ritual.

The Stones involvement with the Occult is very clear.

“The early Stones, for example, bank-rolled an occult sect called “The Process” and provided a base of operations for their satanic evangelism. (Contact America radio broadcast, September 15, 1986) Later, Anita Pallenberg, an aspiring actress and accomplished witch, became the companion of first Jagger and then Keith Richards. In July of 1979, at Richards’ Connecticut estate, an 18-year-old boy shot himself while lying in Pallenberg’s bed. Investigating officers uncovered reports of weird rituals and sacrificed animals that led up to the suicide. (Rock and Roll Babylon, (Courage Books, 1982), Gary Herman, p. 125; The Rolling Stones The First Twenty Years, (Knopf, 1981), David Dalton, p. 148)” http://www.inplainsite.org/html/rock_and_the_occult.html

The Process was the Cult led by the famed Charles Manson, of which Mariane Faithful and Anita Pallenberg were members and was at one time Mick Jagger’s girlfriends.

Some further information which is an informative read see






Gene Simmons tongue

Gene Simmons (born: Chiam Witz, legal name Gene Klein) of KISS (who is a Kabbalist) and is a clear example of rebellion, when in an interview on 60 Minutes Australia, stated he could not put a number on the amount of women he had slept with.

He was also asked a similar question about it being true he has slept with over 4600 women on another US show.

He responded from the lyrics of The Who’s “Better You Bet” saying

“If you want to welcome me with open arms, I’m afraid you’re also going to have to welcome me with open legs”,

It is interesting that he would quote from a Who song when we also look at the Who.

Quoting from a non Christian Website, it reinforced what I was saying by surprisingly saying the exact same from an article “Non-verbal Gestures: Don’t Stick Your Tongue out at Me!” written by: Laurie Patsalides • edited by: Donna Cosmato • updated: 11/21/2012

    “There are a couple of rock and roll groups who made the gesture a teenage icon; the Rolling Stones and later followed by KISS. Even then, adults said the gesture was offensive, because it represented a sign of social rebellion, disobedience and open sexuality; risqué at the time. More than forty years later, show someone either the Rolling Stones logo or photograph of Gene Simmons with his tongue sticking out and they will name the band.” http://www.brighthubeducation.com/social-studies-help/122629-cultural-meaning-of-sticking-out-your-tongue/

Gene Simmons tongue out with bloodKISS has one song of theirs called God of Thunder and Gene Simmons is also quoted wanting to know what it would be like to be a cannibal. Both these ideas work together as will be seen shortly.

This God of Thunder is important in understanding the connections.

We find this explanation in the Encyclopaedia of Religion and Ethics

11. Storm-goddess.—Either as a destroyer or as a sender of rain, Ishtar was occasionally described as a storm-goddess. She was ‘the lofty one who causes the heavens to tremble, the earth to quake, the flaming fire, who causes the bird-like Zu (the storm cloud) to fly from the house, who casts down the mountains like dead bodies‘(AJSL xxiii. [1907] 150 f., 164 f.). In her character as storm-goddess she waged war with the gods of the mountains (JAOS xxiv. 114). In art she was often represented holding a caduceus of two serpents (Ward, pp. 155, 405, 408). This is apparently a symbol of the lightning. Pg 431 Encyclopaedia of Religion and Ethics Volume 7

Zazu (2)ZazuI find it interesting in “The Lion King” the Kings bird is called Zazu. In hierogrphics Zazu is represented by two different birds. Coincidentally Mafusa “The King” who died speaks to his son from the clouds with storm and thunder.


Mufasa speaks to Simba.

Unmistakeably the creators of the animation intentionally placed the words SEX in sky from the flowers that Simba sits himself down in. Still shots do not reveal it well as it is based upon movement … http://www.mylionking.com/characters/ claims that the meaning of Zazu is from Hebrew meaning movement. Watch the video and it is clear as day.

Watch between 1’27” and 1’34”

What is even more apt is that as website http://www.lionking.org/characters/ makes this very interesting revelation

“… as is told in A Tale of Two Brothers) Zazu’s mother Zuzu was recommended by Rafiki to the king’s service as a lookout and carrier of messages keeping the king informed of happenings within his lands.”

Of course we just read that Zu was a bird caused to fly by the storm goddess.

In seeking out meanings behind these names I came across a clear fact that though the name is used in a lot in occult systems, the meaning is never clearly explained. Upon reading some Babylonian Poetry I came across the name Pa zuzu but eventually stumbled upon this clear explanation (warning do not try to do this!!!)

“I must tell of what the Ouija Board is. To those of you who don’t know, it’s a “children’s toy” with letters spelled out across a board. A person or a group can put their hands or fingers on the planchet, and try to summon spirits. The spirit then moves the planchett around the board, spelling out sentences. Some claim its each other doing the moving, which it often tends to be. Others claim it’s their subconscious. Yet many believe it is actually spirits. I will not get into this, if you want to research this there is plenty of information.

The Zozo phenomenon is the fact that people from all over the world for the last 30 years (the time the board became popular) have reported an entity named Zozo, Zoso, ZuZu, Zu, Zo(footnote), and other Z worded names like that. This creature often starts claiming its another spirit, or trying to act friendly or nice. More often then not, Zozo quickly becomes violent, curses you out, and takes complete control of the board. For many, this is not the end of it however. No matter how many boards they use, Zozo comes back. And soon it doesn’t end with the board. Many report hauntings by Zozo, some claim possession, and others claim harassment. It often carries a very common theme, however. Zozo either pretends to be friendly for a while, and slowly drains away from its host, or he is outright hostile, terrifying the poor souls unlucky enough to encounter him.

Many have asked Zozo questions on his origins. On most occasions, after revealing himself as Zozo, he will not deny what he is. He will outright tell you he is a Demon from hell, even once claiming to be Satan himself. Although this last part was probably one of his many scare tactics, there is much evidence of ancient entities in ancient Africa, medieval Europe, and Christianity for a demon named Zozo, which in English translates to “the destroyer.” Zozo has even been known to curse off in Hebrew and quote bible verses, and to react severely negatively to anything about God or Jesus Christ, even relinquishing his grip on his victims when being commanded in a Christian fashion. I do not know if this is common with other religions as well, and it doesn’t always work for Christians as well.” http://www.creepypasta.com/zozo-phenomenon/

ZosoIt is interesting from this that Jimmy Page of Led Zeppelin signed his name Zoso, and had persistent unexplained tragedies in his life and bought Crowley’s house at Boleskin, Scotland. 1

Boleskin House

An excellent treatment of Jimmy Pages use of this sigil (as he claims it is not intended to be a spoken word) can be found at http://web.archive.org/web/20120222124002/http://www.inthelight.co.nz/ledzep/zososymbol.htm

176saturnIt makes it very clear that the symbol is used for Saturn.

In an article called “What Does Shiva Have to Do with Saturn? On Destruction, Transformation, and the Great Night of Shiva” by Dr Katy Poole (obtained her Ph.D in Sanskrit, Vedas and Yoga Studies) of the Shruti Institute for Vedic Arts we are told

“Saturn, like Shiva, is a force of destruction and transformation.” https://www.facebook.com/notes/katy-poole/what-does-shiva-have-to-do-with-saturn-on-destruction-transformation-and-the-gre/386096224738687

This is stated again and again in all works.
We see this again as another example

“In Vedic Astrology, Shiva is represented by the planet Saturn…” http://ezinearticles.com/?Saturn-and-Shiva-in-Vedic-Astrology&id=3588819

Now we can see further upon examination how the symbology crosses over to Zeus, Thor, Odin and such. The sex of the deity (nor the species) in the end does not make much impact in the final understanding of these things.

imageThor with HammerZeus-statue
Siva, of course, was the Rudra of Vedic times. And it has been pointed out how in Rudra are found the same characteristics that distinguish the German Wodan (or Odin), namely those of a storm-god followed by hosts of spirits…” Shaman, Saiva and Sufi A Study of the Evolution of Malay Magic by R. O. WINSTEDT

Siva or Shiva is discussed as a separate matter under the heading Kali – goddess of destruction.

It is critical to note that this is not a side matter in world history and current world affairs. Rather it is central to them. It is the hub from which all other matters persist. Consider that

“… we know the Apocalyptic name of the system, that will lead us to the name of the head of the system. The name of the system is “Mystery” (Rev 17:5). Here, then, we have the key that at once unlocks the enigma. We have now only to inquire what was the name by which Nimrod was known as the god of the Chaldean Masteries. That name, as we have seen, was Saturn. Saturn and Mystery are both Chaldean words, and they are correlative terms. As Mystery signifies the Hidden system, so Saturn signifies the Hidden god… As the Papacy has canonised the Babylonian god by the name of St. Dionysius, and St. Bacchus, the “martyr,” so by this very name of “Satur” is he also enrolled in the calendar; for March 29th is the festival of “St. Satur,” the martyr. (CHAMBER’S Book of Days)
To those who were initiated the god was revealed; to all else he was hidden. Now, the name Saturn in Chaldee is pronounced Satur; but, as every Chaldee scholar knows, consists only of four letters, thus–Stur. This name contains exactly the Apocalyptic number 666:–
S = 060
T = 400
U = 006
R = 200
If the Pope is, as we have seen, the legitimate representative of Saturn, the number of the Pope, as head of the Mystery of Iniquity, is just 666. But still further it turns out, as shown above, that the original name of Rome itself was Saturnia, “the city of Saturn.” This is vouched alike by Ovid, by Pliny, and by Aurelius Victor. He is the only legitimate representative of the original Saturn at this day in existence, and he reigns in the very city of the seven hills where the Roman Saturn formerly reigned; and, from his residence in which, the whole of Italy was “long after called by his name,” being commonly named “the Saturnian land.” But what bearing, it may be said, has this upon the name Lateinos, … Saturn and Lateinos are just synonymous, having precisely the same meaning, and belonging equally to the same god. The reader cannot have forgotten the lines of Virgil, which showed that Lateinos, to whom the Romans or Latin race traced back their lineage, was represented with a glory around his head, to show that he was a “child of the Sun.” Thus, then, it is evident that, in popular opinion, the original Lateinos had occupied the very same position as Saturn did in the Mysteries, who was equally worshipped as the “offspring of the Sun.” Moreover, it is evident that the Romans knew that the name “Lateinos” signifies the “Hidden One,” for their antiquarians invariably affirm that Latium received its name from Saturn “lying hid” there. On etymological grounds, then, even on the testimony of the Romans, Lateinos is equivalent to the “Hidden One”; that is, to Saturn, the “god of Mystery.”
Latium Latinus (the Roman form of the Greek Lateinos), and Lateo, “to lie hid,” all alike come from the Chaldee “Lat,” which has the same meaning. The name “lat,” or the hidden one, had evidently been given, as well as Saturn, to the great Babylonian god. This is evident from the name of the fish Latus, which was worshipped along with the Egyptian Minerva, in the city of Latopolis in Egypt, now Esneh (WILKINSON), that fish Latus evidently just being another name for the fish-god Dagon. We have seen that Ichthys,
Ichthys Fishor the Fish, was one of the names of Bacchus; and the Assyrian goddess Atergatis, with her son Ichthys is said to have been cast into the lake of Ascalon. That the sun-god Apollo had been known under the name of Lat, may be inferred from the Greek name of his mother-wife Leto, or in Doric, Lato, which is just the feminine of Lat.
The Roman name Latona confirms this, for it signifies “The lamenter of Lat,” as Bellona signifies “The lamenter of Bel.” The Indian god Siva, who, as we have seen, is sometimes represented as a child at the breast of its mother, and has the same bloody character as Moloch, or the Roman Saturn…” pg 182 The Two Babylons by Rev Alexander Hisslop

The Romans also celebrated an annual festival called the Saturnalia, which is currently celebrated today as the common celebration of Christmas. A masse meaning eating human flesh.

The make-up wings (also a possible reference to the bird zu and zazu) on the side of Gene Simmon’s head and eyes are, at least, officially in reference to one his his favourite comic book heroes, Black Bolt.

The story of Black Bolt is incredibly telling.2

black bolt wings“Black Bolt (Blackagar Boltagon) is a fictional character that appears in publications by Marvel Comics. Black Bolt is the ruler of the Inhumans. His most prominent offensive weapon is his voice, as his electron-harnessing ability is linked to the speech center of his brain. Speaking triggers a massive disturbance capable of leveling a city. Due to the extreme danger posed by this power, the character has undergone rigorous mental training to prevent himself from uttering a sound, even in sleep.” http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Bolt

Again we see the issue of “destroying”.
Sounds distinctly like Gene Simmons was trying to incarnate that same effect through his music.

Marvel_Super-Heroes_Vol_1_15 MedusaAstoundingly the writers of these comics seem to have an incredible grasp of the ancient pagan myths as 1968 Marvel Comic “Marvel Super Heroes #15 July 1968” deals with Black Bolts cousin Medusa.

As you have seen we have already discussed Medusa so it is clear the writers have an understanding of their subject matter too.

To see a short video on Gene Simmons put out by Good Fight Ministries go to


Gene Simmons involvement in Kabbalah and the subtleties of meaning behind his actions seem unified. Quoting from a Webpage Kabbalah and Medicine,

“The modesty present in the holy union of husband and wife reflects the “unknowability” of the Creator’s essence by His creation, especially in that very moment that the creation most emulates its Creator–the moment of procreation–attaching itself to His certain existence. This is the moment that “man” reaches his epitome (fulfilling the first and only commandment given him by God at the moment of his creation: “be fruitful and multiply…”).

From the above, we learn that the “tongue” and the “procreative organ” (the two manifestations of the “single covenant”–the union of God and man) are interrelated in essence. From this we may infer that their “rectification” is interdependent. The “correction” of one’s faculty of speech (to speak only good and “sweet” words) and the “guarding” of the covenant of one’s procreative organ (to express one’s true love for one’s spouse in marital relations in holiness), depend upon and influence one another. For this reason the two terms: “the word (in Hebrew, milah) of the tongue” and “the circumcision (in Hebrew milah) of the procreative organ,” are the same.” http://www.inner.org/healing/healing08.htm

Gene Simmons’ sticking out the tongue is referencing the act of procreation, but according to his sexual admissions to his multitudinous conquests, seems to be on the left hand path variety, immodesty.

This fact is spelled out in the lyrics of their song “Unholy” that they indeed follow the left hand path.

It is apt that the character he is playing on stage in this song is called “The Demon”.

Let me clarify the quote from http://www.inner.org in though. They either do not understand basic Hebrew or are being completely dishonest because they are not the same word. (The Hebrew language is based on tri-unity)

Circumcision is hlwm means circumcise the act of cutting but not specifically the body part (the genitals, sex organ) though it may imply that as what is being cut in most instances, for you can have the circumcision of the heart, or the word is used in other places to cut enemies into pieces so its focus is the act of cutting not the part cut, else if it was applied against enemies as a body part it would infer raping your enemy, or castrating them, and God never tells his people to rape their enemies. So they are looking for connections that are not there.
The root of the word for circumcision is
lwm, this is different to tongue hlm whose root is llm.
What they are doing is playing around with the Hebrew in a mystical manner to obtain that outcome. That the word is a seed which comes from the mouth, so to the seed comes from the sex organ. Mysticism always requires slathering’s of innovations.
They believe the two are interlinked thus live their life around that. 

Quoting from Masonic and Occult Symbols Illustrated by Cathy Burns,

“TONGUE (protruding): Linked to flame, fire, fertility, sexual power and spiritual power. In nations around the world, images of deities or masks with protruding tongues have indicated active and occupying spiritual forces — often a union of masculine and feminine spirits. Such images were vital to pagan rituals invoking [demonic] spirits. The sexual/spiritual forces represented by gargoyles with protruding tongues which adorned Gothic cathedrals were believed to protect the buildings from other spiritual powers..”

Gargoyle Collection

This is interesting because the passage we referred to in Isaiah speaks of “enflaming” oneself under every green tree.

This clearly is in reference to sexual lust and inordinate carnal desire.




haka tongue polyanesian hawaii

Looking closely at a well known cultural example performed commonly at international sporting events by New Zealand, the Haka (which is also performed by most islanders, Samoans, Hawaiian, etc.)

It is clear from examining the modern day interpretation there has been a political correct whitewashing of the understanding of the sticking out of the tongue which is today toned down in an attempt to claim it is to look as fearsome as possible.

It is hardly racist to speak the truth of what our ancestors have done and it is equally not racist to state what other cultures have done.
In European culture we can refer back to sources of practiced cannibalism we can also refer to it occurring in Melanesian, Polynesian and Maori culture. So let me put that foolishness to bed immediately.

As we have seen before there is an association between sticking out the tongue and the god of thunder.
It is interesting that the Maori name for the God of thunder and lightning is Tawhaki.

“He was one of the supernatural inhabitants of Hawaiki. According to Tainui tradition, he ascended the heavens and received the three baskets of knowledge.” http://www.teara.govt.nz/en/object/476/tawhaki

Here we also see the same similarity to Odin who lost his eye for knowledge, and that’s what Eve saw in the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil. She saw 3 things.


Genesis 3:6

1 John 2:16


Good for food

Lust of the Flesh


Pleasant to the Eyes

Lust of the Eyes


Desired to make one Wise

Pride of Life

We also find this in the legend of the 3 wishes given by genies.

The intermingling of cultural and religious stories occur world wide and are clear in Maori tradition.

“According to legend, the haka was derived from the sun of god Ra. He had two wives: Hine-raumati, who was the essence of summer, and Hine-takurua, the essence of winter.

Ra and Hine-raumati lay together and gave birth to a son called Tanerore. On hot summer days it is possible to see the light dancing.” http://www.tourism.net.nz/new-zealand/about-new-zealand/haka.html

This “light dancing” is called in Hinduism “The dance of Shiva” or “Siva”.
Ra is the name of the Sun god in Egyptian religion and Ra and Hine-raumati are clearly, in this story, none other than Geb and Nut and convoluted with Ra.
In Egyptian mythology Geb is the Earth and Nut is the Sky whilst Ra forbids Nut to have children as he fears the usurpation of his throne. Thoth the god of knowledge steals an extra 5 days from the moon and Nut gives birth to Osiris, Isis, Horus, Set and Nepthy.

Interestingly we find a similar story with Saturn in Roman mythology. Saturn derived from the Greek Cronus who eats his own children to protect himself from a prophecy that one of his own children would overthrow him. Zeus / Jupiter prevails when a stone wrapped in swaddling clothes is given to Cronus / Saturn, who eats it.
This of course is the story of little Red Riding Hood where in some renditions has the hunter sew a stone in the wolfs belly.

In Rome the practise of the Saturnalia which is commonly called Christmas today was a 7 day festival for the winter solstice between 17th-23rd December, whilst Easter was celebrated as the summer solstice. aka Hine-takurua the essence of winter and Hine-raumati the essence of summer.

What we will find shortly is the uncanny association of Saturn with Lua “goddess of destruction” also called “Lua Mater” “Mother Destruction” who received the bloodied weapons of her enemies. As you will find the symmetry between Lua and the Hindu goddess Kali is uncanny.

Quoting from an article from New Zealand we find there is more to the history of the inhabitants  

“The People Who Aren’t Allowed To Be Remembered!

Many years ago Betty Rowe of Awapawa Island, near Picton in Cook Strait, attended the funeral of a Ngai Tahu affiliated dignitary. The well-known leader convening the tangi was interrupted by a Waitaha protestor using the occasion to bring focus to the disenfranchised Waitaha people, who had been assailed, conquered and dispossessed by Ngai Tahu Maori. The well-known orator at the podium is reported to have, in a sneering, dismissive tone, spat back the comment in Maori, ‘You are nothing, we ate you’, as translated by a Maori friend sitting beside Betty.” http://www.elocal.co.nz/View_Article~Id~1148~title~DNA_to_Rock_the_nation_Part_3.html  

This is the message within the haka with the sticking out of the tongue. It was not just to be fearsome but what the intention was.
There are many types of haka (as it means dance) but this haka is a war haka.

“There were two types of war haka – one performed without weapons, usually to express public or private feelings, known as the “haka taparahi”, and the war haka with weapons, the “peruperu”. The “peruperu” was traditionally performed before going into battle. It was to invoke Tumatauenga, the god of war, and warned the enemy of the fate awaiting him.” http://history-nz.org/maori2.html

What this is entailing is the fearsome notion that upon being conquered we will eat you.

Maori Sticking out Tongue TikkiInstead in many cultures there are certain etiquette in eating another human being.

In some instances family members could not eat close family members but the rest of the tribe could.

In other instances it was reversed, where certain family members ate the relative, so as to not loose some specific quality of that person.

“Where cannibalism occurs for the purpose of obtaining the strength or other qualities of the person eaten, it is most frequently only a part of the body which is used; hence there is seldom a cannibalistic meal. This motive underlies cannibalism in parts of Australia, in the Sandwich Islands, Torres Straits and Nagir Islands, Timor-Laut, Celebes, and New Zealand, in some parts of Asia, among some African tribes, with the majority of American Indian tribes, occasionally m S. America, and even now and then in civilized lands.” pg 198, Encyclopaedia of Religion and Ethics Volume 3

This also covered a “respectful” tradition of eating ones enemies to acquire their strength.

“In the Torres Straits Islands the tongue of a slain enemy was eaten as a charm for bravery; the sweat of warriors was drunk for the same reason; … On Nagir Island boys were made to eat the eyes and tongue of an enemy that their hearts might know no fear (Petermann’s Mitteilungen, vi. 96). In Timor-Laut the flesh of a dead enemy was eaten to cure impotence; in Celebes the blood of an enemy was drunk to acquire courage (Riedel, SeUbes, 1886, p. 279). Savage tribes in N.E. Burma preserve blood of enemies in bamboo canes till dry, and then eat it in a feast to obtain courage (Lumholtz, Among Cannibals, 1889, p. 274). The Dayak head-hunters would eat a piece of the cheek-skin as a charm to make them fearless (Ling Roth, JAI xxii. 59). Eating the eye and sucking the blood to get strength appear with the motive of revenge among the Maoris (Taylor, Ê.Z. ch. xxi.). Among the Yakuts and Kamtchatkans, and in Liu-kiu, a mother would eat the placenta in order to bear quickly again (Inter. Arch, für Eth. iii. 71), while in Muzaffarnagar a barren woman is recorded as killing a child to drink its blood (PR ii. 172). The lamas in Tibet are said to have a craving for human blood in order to obtain vigour and genius (Landor, In the Forbidden Land, 1898, ii. 68)”. pg 198, Encyclopaedia of Religion and Ethics Volume 3.

There were a number of reasons and purposes understood for the act of Cannibalism, these being:

1 Obtain Strength
2 Medical Purpose
3 Magical Purpose
4 Animistic Beliefs done to obtain spirit, Religious
5 Making a Covenant – Usually between enemies to either procure help against other enemies or to avert the spiritual revenge of a conquered foes ghost.
6 Honorific – eg the old may be killed to avoid the flesh weakening the soul and spirit, procuring what was considered a “proper” burial to avoid corruption and worms.
7 Revenge
8 Gluttony
9 Political and Social

In regards to the vanquished, it had much to do with humiliating the defeated foe and struck fear into the other tribes.

“Here enemies are eaten out of rage, and in order to glut revenge and cause their lasting- contumely. The dead enemy was treated with the utmost contempt, and finally eaten with every mark of degradation. It is obvious that, where the eating of relatives out of honour still continued, the rise of this motive must have soon put an end to it. For eating the dead could not
signify in the one case contempt and in the other honour… The motive of revenge, however, gave an impetus to the eating of fellow-tribesmen in a
new direction, viz. as a punishment, and produced legal cannibalism. The criminal was eaten, as elsewhere he is executed. In certain cases the
motive of sheer gluttony coexists with this motive of contempt, and here also mainly among higher savages. Raids are made on surrounding tribes, and cannibalism causes a regular trade in bodies, which are bought and sold in the market as meat as in a butcher’s shop.” pg 201 Encyclopaedia of Religion and Ethics Volume 3.

What is important though here is that the inference of the haka and the sticking out of the tongue inferring cannibalism is not lost across the bounds of time when we hear Gene Simmons spouting his vile desire to know what it would be like to be a cannibal.

maori and totem with tongue out.“Strabo speaks of the Karmanians, a people west of the Indus, among whom none may marry till he cuts off an enemy’s head and brings it to the king, in whose dwelling it is hung up; the tongue is mixed with flour, cooked, and eaten by the slayer and his relatives (xv. 727). Asia; Pacific…  In the Marquesas Islands,. as in New Zealand, cannibalism in great part showed contempt for the slain enemy, and this was further marked by the semi’ animistic motive already mentioned—the satisfaction at destroying the enemy’s soul.” pg 202 Encyclopaedia of Religion and Ethics Volume 3.

Digging deeper, the reality of this is again confirmed when looking at the etymology of the word cannibal.

It is two distinct words from the Phonecian “C’ana” “Baal” ie: Priest of Baal.

“… the priests of Nimrod or Baal were necessarily required to eat of the human sacrifices; and thus it has come to pass that “Cahna-Bal,” the “Priest of Baal,” is the established word in our own tongue for a devourer of human flesh.” “The word Cahna is the emphatic form of Cahn. Cahn is “a priest,” Cahna is “the priest.” pg 151 – 152 The Two Babylons by Rev Alexander Hisslop.

The Priest of Baal practised the eating of human flesh, which is where we get the cleaner bloodless version in the Roman Catholic Church in the Transubstantiated Mass.

A Mass meaning to eat human flesh. The Mass of Christ or Christmas, which was also practised in Babylon.

Again what Alexander Hisslop show regarding Baal and the gods associated with him is completely revealing of the spirit behind our current times.

“It must have been in the sense of Bel the “Confounder.”
And to this meaning of the name of the Babylonian Bel, there is a very distinct allusion in Jeremiah 1:2, where it is said “Bel is confounded,” that is, “The Confounder is brought to confusion.” That Cush was known to Pagan antiquity under the very character of Bel, “The Confounder,” a statement of Ovid very clearly proves. The statement to which I refer is that in which Janus “the god of gods,” * from whom all the other gods had their origin, is made to say of himself: “The ancients…called me Chaos.”
* Janus was so called in the most ancient hymns of the Salii. (MACROB, Saturn.)
Now, first this decisively shows that Chaos was known not merely as a state of confusion, but as the “god of Confusion.” But, secondly, who that is at all acquainted with the laws of Chaldaic pronunciation, does not know that Chaos is just one of the established forms of the name of Chus or Cush?”  pg 22 The Two Babylons by Alexander Hisslop.


Now the following picture might be shocking to some, even horrific, so be warned but it places Gene Simmons into a a context which is far more informative.


KALI – goddess of destruction

The following references take much from H P Blavatsky and Alice Bailey as they have had a great influence of Western Occultism, World and National leaders, organisations and many others.

Kali with tongue out

The Above picture is a depiction of the Hindu goddess Kali, goddess of destruction. This is also a feminist display of victory of wife over husband as she stepping on her husband Siva – the destroyer. This is also called the “cosmic play”.

In this picture there is so much symbolism and inference which should be left for a different time except for the topic at hand, the tongue sticking out is just like Gene Simmons.

We read in a Sanskrit poem

“Terrible-faced, horrible, with dishevelled hair and four arms,
Divine, adorned with a necklace of sliced-off heads;
Holding in Her two left hands a freshly hacked head and a cleaver,
And in Her right displaying the “fear not” and boon-bestowing hand gestures;
Lustrously black like a large cloud, and robed with nothing but the sky,
Anointed with blood dripping down from the necklace of heads at Her throat;
Terrible because of the pair of children’s corpses She wears for earrings,
Her teeth horrid and Her face frightful, but Her breasts high and uplifted;
A skirt of cut arms hanging from Her waist, laughter bellowing out,
Her face shining from the red stream dripping from the two corners of Her mouth;
Shouting terribly, dwelling on the very fierce cremation grounds,
Her third eye permeated with the newly risen sun;
With fangs for teeth and a pearl necklace that swings to the right as She moves,
Sitting on the Great Lord, who has taken the form of a corpse;
Surrounded by jackals and their terrible, all-pervading cries,
Engaging Great Time in the act of reversed sexual intercourse;
Her face happy and pleased, like a lotus-
He who thinks on Kali thus will have all his wishes fulfilled.”
pg 19 Singing to the goddess: Poems to Kali and Uma from Bengal by Rachel Fell McDermott

Notice that the fangs like Medusa.

What is most important though in this is the fact that the destroyer is mentioned in Revelation 9 as the Hebrew word Abaddon or the Greek Apollyon and corresponds to the Babylonian god Sin and Islam’s Allah., of which are depicted with the crescent moon as seen on both Siva and Kali in the above image.

This is of course the moon god or goddess.

mosque with crescentISNA logo

This is why Mosques and Muslim Nations and Organisations have a crescent moon on them.

“…the moon-god Sin…” Encyclopaedia of Religion and Ethics Volume 3 pg 527

Below left is a Babylonian depiction of the worship of Sin, whilst below right we have the Dome of the Ali Mosque Cairo.

allah-moon-god sinAli Mosque Cario Cresent and Star

Consider the description the Encyclopaedia of Religion and Ethics,

“Some moon divinities were represented with a crescent moon on their heads or were symbolized by it. This crescent bears a certain resemblance to a pair of horns, the likeness being occasionally emphasized, and there was a tendency to confuse the crescent moon on the divinity’s head with horns. This is seen, e.g., in the case of the Bab. moon-god Sin, the Greek Io, and the Egyptian Isis.” pg 793 Encyclopaedia of Religion and Ethics Volume 6

Remember that we quoted showing that Kali had a crescent moon on her forehead a critical location at that.

“Other Kali Dhjyanas add that she is accompanied by her ghoulish friends and that she has a half moon on her forehead; the sun moon and fire for her three eyes; matted hair; lolling tongue; a snake draped around her like a sacred thread; and a body black as mascara, adorned with all manner of jewels and ornaments. She is so brilliant that even the gods worship her.” pg 19-20 Singing to the goddess: Poems to Kali and Uma from Bengal by Rachel Fell McDermott

The Scriptures state regarding this

“And they had a king over them, which is the angel of the bottomless pit (abyss), whose name in the Hebrew tongue is Abaddon, but in the Greek tongue hath his name Apollyon. One woe is past; and, behold, there come two woes more hereafter.” Revelation 9:11-12

Apollyon in Greek VApollu,wn  meaning Destroyer

It is also interesting that the Greek used for bottomless pit is a;bussoj Abyss.

It is interesting to note that a primer for new Muslims, “Towards Understanding Islam” by notable Islamic scholar, Abul A’la Mawdudi states that Muhammad and his teachings derive from

“Arabia – The Abyss of Darkness”. Abul A’la Mawdudi, Towards Understanding Islam, 8th ed. (Riyadh, Saudi Arabia: National Offset Printing Press, 1986), 63.

It goes to show they have more of an idea of where their religion comes than anyone else apart from scripture itself.

It then becomes not so surprising to point out the recent events in Syria with a video emerging in April 2013 by two TIME reporters of Rebel Commander Khalid al-Hamad opening a Syrian soldiers chest with his knife, cutting out his heart and liver and stating

“I swear we will eat from your hearts and livers, you dogs of Bashar”

referring to Syrian President Bashar. He then eats them whilst in the background the other rebel soldiers cry “allahu akbar” ie: god is great. I have refrained from even linking to the video as it shows them cutting one of Bashar’s soldiers up to eat.
The cannibalistic and occult nature is also shown in the selling of vials of blood obtained from slaughter Christians as of 2013-2014.

Here we see the perfect blend of the comparative moon god / goddess Siva, Allah, Sin, Kail, in different cultures and associated cannibalistic practice, and makes perfect sense of Gene Simmons stage performances and desire to know what it is like to be a cannibal.

The Who Poster with tongueNotice to the left that The Who’s concert in 1976 was advertised with this poster in Germany. A clear reference to Kali and the Devil, and possibly provides more insight into Gene Simmons quote of the Who’s song “Better You Bet”, when answering questions about his sexual conquests.

Pete Townsend of The Who has stated that when he is on stage something else takes him over

Peter Townshend: (The Who). “ Let me try and explain. When I’m on the stage I’m not in control of myself. I don’t even know who I am. I am not this rational person who can sit here and talk to you. If you walked on the stage with a microphone in the middle of a concert, I’d probably come close to killing you. I have come close to killing people who walked on stage. (Taped interview). – See more at: http://www.inplainsite.org/html/voices_of_rock.html#sthash.C3XqiIzF.dpuf

What we must remember is that these same permutations of the same deities are found the world over but all have differing names.

Examining a work of Occultist H P Blavatsky we read some of those names

“In India, God is called in various dialects, Eashoor, Esur, Iswur, and Is’Vara, in Sanskrit the Lord, from Isa, but this is primarily the name of Siva, the Destroyer” The Secret Doctrine Volume 2 pg 114 by Madam H P Blavatsky.

Notice that Isa in Islam is their name for their Jesus. Whereas Christian Arabs call the Biblical Jesus Yasa.

Isa means in Sanskrit the Lord.

After many years speaking to Muslims, I did not quite understand till writing this study the deep implications of the Muslim usage of “the Lord” or “our Lord”.

The messiah of the New World Order is called Esu Immanuel Sananda .

If you also examine the garland of heads round Kali’s neck and the decapitated head in her left hand with the other left hand catching the blood it should remind us of a number of things.

Consider the French Revolution, and Islam both use decapitation as mean of death. That is very relevant for another discussion but it is worth considering

Revelation 20:4

“And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.”

Writing in 1962 Alice Bailey speaks in Esoteric Psychology Vol 1 about this destroyer

“The will of Deity coloured the stream of energy units which we call by the name of the Ray of Will or Power, the first ray,3 and the impact of that stream on the

matter of space insured that the hidden purpose of Deity would inevitably and eventually be revealed. It is a ray of such dynamic intensity that we call it the ray of the Destroyer. It is not as yet functioning actively. It will come into full play only when the time comes for the purpose to be safely revealed.” pg 27

That sounds very ominous and threatening and when you dig deeper it is since the First Ray is called by Alice Bailey

the ray of the destroyer” pg 27 Esoteric Psychology Volume 1,

which she explains is

the work of antichrist” pg 44 Esoteric Psychology Volume 1.

Now Antichrist to Alice Bailey and Occultists is not a bad thing. They consider it is merely the flip side of building. Yin and Yang.

Reading again from Alice Bailey.

The work of the Antichrist is to destroy forms, and this is essentially the work of the first expression of divinity. But the work of the destroyer is not the work of black magic, and when ignorant humanity regards Antichrist as working on the black side, their error is great. His work is as beneficent as that of the building aspect, and it is but man’s hatred of the death of forms which makes him regard the work of the destroyer as “black,” as being against the divine will, and as subversive of the divine programme.” pg 44 Esoteric Psychology Volume 1 by Alice Bailey

“Destroy forms” is another way of saying to kill the body, the external.

If you examine my piece about Eugene Petersons “The Message” you will see he also connects the idea of a destroyer with antichrist.

So the death of possibly billions of people is not a bad thing but is part of the divine programme they say.

Notice that it is a non Christian view that pervades the idea of anti christ being one man at the end (in the Kali age), before the New Age. I will explain the concept of the Kali Age shortly.

That is why John Nelson Darby’s “dispensationalism” was selected by the East India Company as teaching useful beliefs to fund and support. see pg 2 Beyond the Conspiracy – Unmasking the Invisible World Government by Dr James Coleman

Scripture states clearly there is more than one anti christ and even the man of sin, the son of perdition, the lawless one, the little horn, inferring anti christ, is also one but many.

“For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many.” Matthew 24:5. 4 

Understand this “necessity” for depopulation is the mentally inverted way many power brokers in Government and the Corporate world think.

They truly are mentally ill because they believed a lie.

Consider H P Blavatsky’s The Secret Doctrine Volume 1 pg 286 quoting from Hindu Scriptures

“Glory to the unchangeable, holy, eternal Supreme Vishnu, of one universal nature, the mighty over all; to him who is Hiranyagarbha, Hari, and Sankara (Brahma, Vishnu, and Siva), the creator, the preserver, and the destroyer of the world…”

Brahma here is attributed with Creating, Vishnu with Preserving and Siva with Destruction.

Siva is married to Durga or Kali, thus we see the interchangeable attributes of Male and Female gods and goddesses and this is consistent through all pagan cultures. The lack of distinction of roles of the sexes is a clearly feminist element leading towards androgyny that is fully attaining its stride in our society now.

The messages being conveyed should concern us because the amount of people who are agreeing with the following sentiments are increasing and will in time justify killing all who refuse to be initiated into their global humanistic religion with all it’s associated “human rights.”

“To live is to die and to die is to live,” has been too little understood in the West. Siva, the destroyer, is the creator and the Saviour of Spiritual man, as he is the good gardener of nature. He weeds out the plants, human and cosmic, and kills the passions of the physical, to call to life the perceptions of the spiritual, man. The Secret Doctrine Volume 1 pg 459 by Madam H P Blavatsky.

Understand Satanism (the left hand path) is about killing the passions but it comes via obverse methods not of self-denial (right hand path) but of indulgence to the point of satiation and saturation to sickness to which you become exhausted by your passions and thus give up their pursuit.
The narrow way deals with this in the correct manner since the Greek word narrow is
qli,bw thlibo meaning “to be pressed hard” or as a metaphor for trouble, affliction, or distress. Thus as Jesus said in Acts 14:22 

“Confirming the souls of the disciples, and exhorting them to continue in the faith, and that we must through much tribulation [thilibo] enter into the kingdom of God. “

This is why we have immorality shoved down our throats. Consider the serious arousal problems users of pornography have for example.

Sadly this is a complete rejection of the blessing of the passions God gave to us in the right and Holy use and is the abandonment of self control.

Modern “Biblical” Eschatology runs contrary to what the Bible actually teaches, and requires great agility of wresting scripture into the mould of the climaxing Kali Age belief.

I explain this by the following so you can reflect upon contemporary popular Christian eschatology and note the parallelisms:

“As the “Satya-yuga” is always the first in the series of the four ages or Yugas, so the Kali ever comes the last. The Kali yuga reigns now supreme in India, and it seems to coincide with that of the Western age.”

“There will be contemporary monarchs, reigning over the earth — kings of churlish spirit, violent temper, and ever addicted to falsehood and wickedness. They will inflict death on women, children, and cows; they will seize upon the property of their subjects, and be intent upon the wives of others; they will be of unlimited power, their lives will be short, their desires insatiable. . . . People of various countries intermingling with them, will follow their example; and the barbarians being powerful (in India) in the patronage of the princes, while purer tribes are neglected, the people will perish (or, as the Commentator has it, ‘The Mlechchhas will be in the centre and the Aryas in the end.’)** Wealth and piety will decrease until the world will be wholly depraved. Property alone will confer rank; wealth will be the only source of devotion; passion will be the sole bond of union between the sexes; falsehood will be the only means of success in litigation; and women will be objects merely of sensual gratification. . . . . . External types will be the only distinction of the several orders of life; . . . . . a man if rich will be reputed pure; dishonesty (anyaya) will be the universal means of subsistence, weakness the cause of dependence, menace and presumption will be substituted for learning; liberality will be devotion; mutual assent, marriage; fine clothes, dignity. He who is the strongest will reign; the people, unable to bear the heavy burthen, Khara bhara (the load of taxes) will take refuge among the valleys. . . . Thus, in the Kali age will decay constantly proceed, until the human race approaches its annihilation (pralaya)… When the close of the Kali age shall be nigh, a portion of that divine being which exists, of its own spiritual nature . . . shall descend on Earth . . . (Kalki Avatar) endowed with the eight superhuman faculties. . . . He will re-establish righteousness on earth, and the minds of those who live at the end of Kali Yuga shall be awakened and become as pellucid as crystal. The men who are thus changed . . . shall be the seeds of human beings, and shall give birth to a race who shall follow the laws of the Krita age, the age of purity.The Secret Doctrine Volume 1 by Madam H P Blavatsky. Pg 376 – 377

We see this happening all around us. Corruption is rife and not even blushed at, justice is unobtainable in the courts, the wealthy and famous are lauded in the highest notes of charity and benevolence, but we would be deceived to think this is not happening without manipulation and careful direction. This is happening this way because it was planned that way.

This explanation of the Kali Age is useful and quite current stating

“Here the Brahmanic theory of the Four yugas finds a place: the increasing will be divided into the Iron, Bronze, Silver, and Golden Ages; and the decreasing will be parallel (Kali, Dvapara, Treta, Krta). We are now (A.D. 1907) in the Iron Age of the first Intermediate Period of the Period of Stability (this Intermediate is only decreasing). From a hundred years, the highest attained in the Iron Age, life is declining to ten. When the decreasing Kali Age begins, the five calamities (kasaya) begin to prevail; but when life is reduced to ten years (daśavarsayuh kalpah) the destiny of men is worse. At the end of every Intermediate Period (except the last, or the 20th, which is only of increase) the greater number of living beings pass away by hunger, epidemics, and sword. Some say that these three plagues work together, some that they appear in succession, as in the Abhidharmakośa and the Mahavyutpatti; and this same diversity of opinion manifests itself in the Mongolian and Chinese sources. Spence Hardy establishes a connexion between prevailing vices, plagues, and forthcoming destruction: Love, Epidemic, Fire; Hate, Sword, Water; Delusion, Hunger, and Wind. It would follow, as Destruction is coming only after many Intermediate Periods, that during the whole of the ‘Incalculable,’ every Intermediate has epidemics, etc., according to the final modes of passing away.* The majority of the creatures being dead, the remaining ones are ‘converted,’ and the age of man increases again. A new intermediate Age has begun.” pg 189 Encyclopaedia of Religion and Ethics Volume 1.

What we have read hear almost reads of Revelations 4 horsemen, but what appears is a false fulfilling as a delusion since much of prophecy has been fulfilled.
It is thus worthwhile reflecting upon the 3 spirits like frogs that come out of the mouth of the dragon, beast and false prophet gathering the nations to the great battle. (A matter I plan to address as soon as possible if the Lord wills, as it is critical and pertinent.)

Aka the idea of the New Age derives from this Hindu Concept.

“… Ganesa, the elephant-headed god, the son of Siva, ( is regarded as the God of Wisdom and Prudence, and the Remover of obstacles,)…” pg 30 The Book of Talismans, Amulets and Zodiacal Gems (1922), by William Thomas and Kate Pavitt

The obstacles requiring removal are those who present resistance to the coming New Age religion. I believe it is necessary to see the culmination of what this sign of sticking out the tongue prophesises.





In Einstein: A Biography Einstein explains saying

“Sticking out my tongue reflects my political views.”

After what we have seen, that speaks volumes.

What is most interesting about these examples of sticking out of the tongue is that Einstein helped create the Atomic Bomb and in conjunction with Kali there is great symmetry when you consider the works of Alice Bailey and the idea of the Destroyer.

More light is shed on the matter when we examine the only signed photograph by Einstein with comments in German quoting from an article “Einstein Sticks His Tongue Out At Humanity Only Known Signed Photograph of ‘Albert Einstein Sticking His Tongue Out’ Available At Auction”

“In 1953, at the height of the 1950s Communist witch-hunt, Albert Einstein signed the photo for award-winning CBS and ABC anchor reporter Howard K. Smith as a gesture of his admiration of Smith’s work. The German inscription (translated) states: “This gesture you will like, Because it is aimed at all of humanity. A civilian can afford to do what no diplomat would dare.” http://www.prweb.com/releases/einstein/autograph/prweb2513774.htm

Remember this is 8 years after the bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki in 1945.
The realisation of the power of destruction.

In the book “The Extraordinary Life and Influence of Helena Blavatsky”, Syliva Cranston tells us from two separate witnesses that

“A niece of Einstein reported that a copy of [Madam Blavatsky’s] The Secret Doctrine was always on his desk. Another witness, Jack Brown, reports similarly in an article, ‘I visited Professor Einstein.”

These were sourced from Iverson Harris “The Journal of San Diego History” San Diego (California) Historical Society Summer 1974 pg 16. and Ojai Valley New Ojai, California, September 28, 1983.

Again after what we have read there are some interesting additional connections to the same influences working towards destruction.



Now here lies the deceit behind the sticking out of the tongue.

Let’s consider

Matthew 12:34-36

“O generation of vipers, how can ye, being evil, speak good things? for out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaketh. A good man out of the good treasure of the heart bringeth forth good things: and an evil man out of the evil treasure bringeth forth evil things. But I say unto you, That every idle word that men shall speak, they shall give account thereof in the day of judgment.”

Understand how the Pharisees operated and how they still operate (though they are not called Pharisees today).

All types of Pharisee keep the letter of the law while disobeying the spirit of the law, and seek to always reinterpret the law into effect and away by cultural irrelevance today, historical necessity at the time, and so on.

In this verse the sticking out of the tongue is of no consequence to such darkened minds since to stick out the tongue is not speaking at all and thus no judgement can come to bare (according to their wisdom).

They tend to forget God looks upon the heart and speaking infers the things you are communicating.

1 Samuel 16:7   

“But the LORD said unto Samuel, Look not on his countenance, or on the height of his stature; because I have refused him: for the LORD seeth not as man seeth; for man looketh on the outward appearance, but the LORD looketh on the heart.”

Matthew 5:37 

“But let your communication be, Yea, yea; Nay, nay: for whatsoever is more than these cometh of evil.”

Communication can come via signs, actions, designs, logos, art, performance in dance (like in India or Thailand, every action in the dance tells a story.)

Most unfortunately the end of such men I foresee mimic the same story that was told us by Jesus about Lazarus and the rich man.

Luke 16:23-24

“And in hell he lift up his eyes, being in torments, and seeth Abraham afar off, and Lazarus in his bosom. And he cried and said, Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus, that he may dip the tip of his finger in water, and cool my tongue; for I am tormented in this flame.”

To seek out good remedy to an unruly tongue, it is worthwhile to notice removing oneself from the world is not always a useful method though if you are watching and listening to filthy conversation it will lower you ideals as to what is acceptable and normal.

Normal is what you surround yourself with. It is relative.

We are required to submit ourselves to Christ in our listening, our watching, our reading and most of all our relating to others.

For a good treatment on the tongue read Puritan Richard Baxter’s “A Christian Directory” Chapter 9 Directions for the Government of the Tongue.

Understand this is only as a help, not a catalyst for change. Only Christ in you through the Holy Spirit can you find your heart be changed to reflect Christ in your tongue.

So in Conclusion the very spirit behind sticking ones tongue out at someone is generally a destructive, chaotic demonic spirit of anarchy, rebellion sexual licentiousness. We have seen over and over the central theme is destruction!

Quite the godlessness displayed that should not ever become the Children of the Most High, and thus I strongly discourage the use of the sticking out of the tongue amongst professing believers of Christ Jesus. As 1 Thessalonians 5:22  states we should

“Abstain from all appearance of evil.”

It’s clear attachment to the feminine should be an indicator of the spirit in which we also see. Feminism directed since it’s inception in the garden seen in Eve’s action of usurpation and Adam’s submission.

You may be of the opinion that this is going TOO FAR.

I also used to think the same way.

But consider, if you stand for nothing you will fall for everything. The proof lies before you.

As the process of sanctification works in your life you will find that Christ is invading the territory of the world in your heart and mind. It is ground that you find precious and reluctant to surrender. You would do well to yield to the grace God gives you to yield.

The battle is for you soul, and no ground can be left as a foothold for the devil, to in time, claw you back.

In this war

“He who does not advance, is planning a retreat.”

There is no settling comfortably down in this world.

The property of light is movement, the absence of the movement of photons is darkness.

In The Glorious Name of Salvation

Copyright Copyright 2014 Dunce Scholar


Zo could in the classic tradition of occultism be reversed to form Oz. The Wizard of Oz
written by L Frank Baum was a notable Theosophist and studied H P Blavatsky.  See
Oz – A Notable Theosophist: L. Frank Baum By John Algeo Reprint from American Theosophist 74 (1986): 270–3.


It is worthwhile to also note that Disney brought out a children’s movie called Bolt, which was about a super hero dog who had a super bark.


The First Ray is also called the First Chakra. Note the following quote by Alice Bailey in relation to the above:

Group initiation means that the bulk of the members are correctly oriented; that they are proposing to accept the discipline which will prepare them for the next great expansion of consciousness, and that none of them can possibly be deviated from their purpose (note that word with its first ray or Shamballic implications), no matter what is happening in their environment or their personal life. You need to reflect on this if you desire to make the needed progress.” pg 20 Rays and Initiations: A Treatise on the seven rays Volume 5 by Alice Bailey

(NB: I have only emboldened the text here this is in the original!)

“Purpose” is a Word of Power and has Shamballic implications so next time you hear about Rick Warren playing round with that word, now you know of what spirit he is operating under.

What is of great significance is that the other two references of this self same quote found in Mark 13:6 and Luke 21:8 exclude in the Greek “Christ”. It is placed there by the translators but it is not there in the original.
Thus saying “many shall come in my name saying I am”.
The significance of which is inescapable but not to be discussed here.


28 thoughts on “Explaining the Meaning of Sticking Out the Tongue.”

  1. Wow what a gross gross misunderstanding of things that are so much older than chritanity. You have so much knowledge yet still stuck in this matrix system. You’re so wrong about this. I won’t even go into it because even with what you know you still don’t know. I hope you see soon….sincerely and ex-christian

    1. If you have the time Yolanda I would appreciate your input.

      You say you are an ex Christian but I always wonder what ones definition of a Christian is to start with?

      The Matrix system has us all, until death, We’re all plugged into this mortal shell of which religion is just another facet of control and just another layer to the delusion.

      As you said “with what you know you still don’t know” which makes it clear that the way is not through knowledge (Gnosticism).
      There are many things I still don’t know, and at my last breath there will still be an infinite amount of things both of us will not know.

      We are not delivered from this Matrix through knowing the truths of which they are endless, we are delivered by The Truth to which there is but one.

      So I encourage you to explain what you are referring to.

      Thank you

      Dunce Scholar.

  2. I amy be doing a video on this topic in the future and I appreciate the time you have spent researching the occult significance of this vulgar gesture. I will make sure to credit your page in the video somehow. God bless you, – Brian M.

    1. All the best with the video. Not everyone is capable of reading a long blog nor one that gets in depth. TV and video has captured and entrained the minds of so many it is the only way some can be reached.
      Feel free to use my material as needed, I do appreciate a reference.
      I brings me joy to know that people are getting something useful from what I am doing.

      God Bless

      Dunce Scholar

    1. Thank you.

      Yes Miley Cyrus is doing just that. As you have probably found as you gain understanding into all this, everything you see hear, smell, taste and touch all prove the Word of God in that there is”nothing new under the sun” “What has been done before will be done again.” That is because mankind in it’s fallen state has only one story to tell but they try to redesign it in many ways.
      Whilst the people of God all have many stories but it is told only in one way being The Gospel.

      May the Lord Bless you

      Dunce Scholar

  3. No wonder the All Blacks are on a winning streak, there’s gotta be a deeper meaning to the haka, it scares the opposition more than any posturing or language. Interesting about the Maori culture, it’s well known back home, if you have a spirit plaguing you or your residence, The Maori kaumata or elder is to be relied upon to expunge this demon.
    P.S what’s the odds with meeting you on 2 different groups? Who’s really running Google?

  4. If you spend your life straining at every kind of gnat, chigger, and ephemera, remember you may be at risk of ingesting a camel.

    1. This is true. Always best to say it as you see it, not seek the evil of tomorrow “Sufficient unto the day is the evil thereof.” Matthew 6:34

      People have been trying to get me to ingest camels all my life and I have had a gut full. In all things grace, mercy and righteous judgment.

      I have spent around 25 years sitting on my hands not doing anything to defend truth making sure I was humble before God and throwing out the trash in my heart and mind, but truth is not only in the knowing but the doing.
      The stuff put there by churches and false religion, secular education and the media has wizened me to their methods of lying and deceit.

      Should I spend another 25 years examining my navel “to be sure to be sure”?
      There comes a time to stand up. When our time comes I hope we all do not fear breaking the chains of “cliches” and psychological means of self censorship imposed upon us from childhood.

      I also note that your reference to Matthew 23:23-25 is referring to the Pharisees imposing man made laws that overrode the laws of God.

      Matthew 23:23-28

      “Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye pay tithe of mint and anise and cummin, and have omitted the weightier matters of the law, judgment, mercy, and faith: these ought ye to have done, and not to leave the other undone. 24 Ye blind guides, which strain at a gnat, and swallow a camel. 25 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye make clean the outside of the cup and of the platter, but within they are full of extortion and excess. 26 Thou blind Pharisee, cleanse first that which is within the cup and platter, that the outside of them may be clean also. 27 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye are like unto whited sepulchres, which indeed appear beautiful outward, but are within full of dead men’s bones, and of all uncleanness. 28 Even so ye also outwardly appear righteous unto men, but within ye are full of hypocrisy and iniquity.”

      God looks upon the heart but remember Matthew 12:34

      “O generation of vipers, how can ye, being evil, speak good things? for out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaketh.”

      Am I encouraging people to “pay tithe of mint and anise and cummin” or am I encouraging people to examine the man made traditions and customs we take for granted (the norms) and promote judgment, mercy, and faith.

      As 1 John 5:19 states

      “And we know that we are of God, and the whole world lieth in wickedness.”

      If that is true then we should be able to poke a stick at any of mans customs and find them corrupt and vain. See Jeremiah 10:3 (I use the word vain because it’s meaning in the Hebrew means utter worthlessness.)

      When should one stand up and expose what others do not see, or should one spend their entire life with their mouth closed and let the evil in men’s hearts indoctrinate and mislead mankind?
      Can one sit by with a self righteous smile on ones smug mug and be just before God and men knowing the evil and allowing it to prosper and say “I’m alright Jack”?

      Matthew 5:15-16 Is clear upon what we should do and speak

      “Neither do men light a candle, and put it under a bushel, but on a candlestick; and it giveth light unto all that are in the house. 16 Let your light so shine before men, that they may see your good works, and glorify your Father which is in heaven.”

      If you do find what I have written is not for you, that is okay. We are all where we should be. Maybe this will hit home in a year, in a decade maybe never. That is okay.

      God has put it upon my conscience regarding this matter and thus I speak of it.
      God leads His people to His Son through various methods and manners but always to one truth and one saviour.

      May the Lord bless you in truth and wisdom

      Dunce Scholar

  5. My 7 yr old step-daughter took a disturbing selfie on my phone wherein I almost didn”t recognize her it was so contorted – evil like expression with tongue sticking out – nothing cute about – again disturbing – which is what led me to research this entire topic – Indeed God does give those who believe a Spirit of discernment

    1. Discernment is seriously lacking in today’s Churches and with many Christians.
      I am glad you have read this blog, I hope it will enable you to explain to your daughter at least in a 7 year old manner, since some of the stuff in this beyond that age group. (Though the world around us likes to destroy the innocence of children it can be difficult to find the balance between what is appropriate and what is necessary).
      Be gentle and as Christ would be to “little children”.
      I have learnt over the years that a good father is not about quality time but regular time and that is a hard target to hit.
      May the Lord bless you in raising the next generation of faithful witnesses.
      (It is great to see your love for your children driving you to study for their sake.)

    2. Hi Y’all, Hi Simon, I’m finding more and more credible information by researching and following bible scholars, it’s taken me a few months, but just finished Mark A Flynn Forbidden secrets of the labyrinth, well worth a read if you’re interested in the origins of and symbolism, myths & legends through history… And how they all revert back over the ages to that same devil and his plan to usurp and destroy Gods creation. The last chapter about Samson and the parallels with with Jesus’s sacrifice, the way God works; to allow Samson to marry a Philistine, to infiltrate, then destroy the philistines blew me away! Samson knowingly told Delilah his weakness, his hair, which as a sign of his loyalty to God, and where he got his strength from… He allowed himself to be sacrificed. Now that’d make a great movie, not just the Hollywood version!
      Also started on Chuck Missler Cosmic codes; how the bible is full of codified information, can be read on many levels, far to in depth for me, I can only pretend to understand, I don’t need convincing Just love to marvel in the depth of Gods word. I read of Daniel and ‘the writing on the wall’ how the kings loins were loosend, Does God have some wit and humour or what?
      I find different levels of reading in the bible, I am gaining an understanding of the translations from the original Hebrew, for me modern interpretations at face value are simplified and I have a desire to learn more.
      I have LA Marzulli Cosmic chess match open also, this is a much easier read, I’d recommend this for any bookshelf, especially for the skeptical, LA approaches the book in simpler terms than above authors, doesn’t play his hand to early, so it may be an acceptable read for athiests or agnostics, who wouldn’t read anything which deviates from their own beliefs.
      I really only read when I’m flying, I wonder if that brings me closer to God, being at elevation?
      As far as the bible being a rule book, I’m not sure. What I believe, there are 2 basic commandments, or rules to live by fora happy healthy life, Love and praise God, Love thy neighbour as thyself!

  6. I am grateful for your blog. It was what I was looking for! I am Really annoyed by all of the celebrities sticking out thier tongues. The young are following these people. I found your article to be Very Refreshing. I am a Christian. I am Happy that you added a lot of Scriptures in. As we know, our world has very little morals.

    God Bless

  7. I really find it very disturbing that most picture of my son and his girl friend picture their tounge sticking out for no reason I new that something is up its a form of rebellion and going through some heartaches and pain and their way of expressing it trying to get my attention ..which they did …I pray that my son whoever his with that he may find peace with God find peace in his heart and learn to forgive and forget live with positive outlook in life regardless not to loose hope and have faith believe in God and trust GOD REGARDLESS TO believer by FAITH AND NOT BY SIGHT.I pray that God will use him bless him with wisdom and knowledge in the Lord.May God protect him continue to be with him have mercy and pour his grace on him .as I pray in Jesus name.Amen Thank you for your blog .God bless you always .

  8. Oh my,,,sad,sad,sad,sad world you live in. Now,let’s take it in YOUR context….being on the internet!!!!?????? I suppose I’ll see you in hell..for the internet is truly EVIL incarnate…no?

  9. about what u mention about (kissing worship) well muslims people are performang AL-Hajj or pilgrim once time in their life as prophet Mohammed did so what’s the issue of one kiss in a life?
    it’s a nonsense

    to make u under stood
    in Ezekiel 23N (Two Adulterous Sisters) from this page should we consider that the bible is a sex book? if i have your head i will definitely say yes.

    1. Roman Catholicism also justifies Idolatry.
      In fact if we look at the Greek for idolatry the word means to serve what you see.
      So the application goes well beyond stone and metal structures etc, anything that your flesh strives to fulfill is idolatry.
      In many respects even the best of us have hidden idols of the heart that are not as obvious as a physical “idol” as commonly understood.
      If you cannot understand this I pray God will bring you to a place of understanding.

  10. i dont see the relevance of Hajra e Aswad in this article. This stone is not an idol and is not mentioned anywhere in Bible (any version of it). such misinformation only puts questionmark on reliability of rest of the article. i am not supporter of tongue sticking out, but the best articles are those which are the result of thorough research on ideas and facts opposing the writer’s own beliefs. muslims don’t believe in idols or any other gods except Allah. the writer should have studied Islam and Muslims before making such false claims, and not just taken into account stories told by their enemies (unless the writer himself is one).

    1. Actually I have studied Islam and the Kaaba was the communal idols were stored.
      The irony is that even though Muhammad destroyed all those Idols the introduction of the Black Stone a representation of Saturn and the Moon Goddess (see the connection between Allah and the Moon God / Goddess Babylonian Sin, Hindu Shiva, or Roman Catholicism Mary)
      is idol worship whether you know it or not.
      Satan loves ignorance, and care not that someone does not know what they are doing.
      That is why light is equated with truth and darkness equated with no knowledge or the abyss.

  11. The Lord led me into this topic of what the sticking out of the tongue might mean and I am so thankful He did, for then I found this. Thank you. Praise God, for He is faithful! Be blessed. The truth sets us free.

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